Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[PhantomCobalt]

Imo Thor v karnos is tvt

VOTE: PC

What's scummy about it? Or do you just disagree?

[Luna Fox]

Imo Thor v karnos is tvt

VOTE: PC

What's scummy about it? Or do you just disagree?

You're voting your supposed townread

[PhantomCobalt]

Imo Thor v karnos is tvt

VOTE: PC

What's scummy about it? Or do you just disagree?

You're voting your supposed townread

Good point

[Tenshii]

Also I don't necessarily townread Karnos, I just seriously don't want the dude to be lynched yet because there's like little to go off of him. Again, his whole game is basically him being forced to defend your guy's scum interpretation. I'd at least want to see more from him.

[Transcend]

I think when PC flips red (I see no reason for him not to I really don't) karnos will be obvtown for all and not just me / Luna.

[Kcdaspot]

Good point

[Kcdaspot]

i dont like the logic behind PC and karnos having differing alignments.

and I REALLY don't get the town reads on KTL.

imma need to iso some peeps real quick.

[Kcdaspot]

when you start looking at the ISO of karnos/PC that late vote onto karnos is damn sketch.

aight scratch that about the logic thing this looks real juicy.

but again I can't allow KTL just to react the way he did to me and just not be lynched.

[Transcend]

it's KTS dude

and my bro kts isn't gettin lynched while phantomcobalt the confscum is still alive

[Kcdaspot]

KTS i meant. and besides that.

1. Do you get your reads typically from gut or evidence? either

2. How would you describe your level of experience? 60-70

3. When trying to get a better read on a specific player, do prefer you reread the entire thread or just their ISO? ISO

5. What's your opinion on Lynch All Liars? Lynch All Lurkers? Policy lynches in general? lynch all liars is good because unless town has a good reason to lie, then they shouldn't be lying. i mean a good, logical reason, too.

6. Do you think it's a good idea to utilize all of the time allotted by a deadline? no

7. Are you scum? lol

VOTE: gigabyeTroubadour

VOTE: /vote Thor

whats town about this? not a dang thing.

[Kcdaspot]

it's KTS dude

and my bro kts isn't gettin lynched while phantomcobalt the confscum is still alive

explain town!KTS.

go.

[Thor665]

Can we get momentum this way? Karnos was in one of my newbie games so i have experience with him. He was town and his play this game is nearly replicated to last time. Plus pc's vote on karnos which is presumably rvs is very deliberately an attempt to build up his roping.

I see you citing the defensiveness - did he lack the logic also?
I have a game with him where he was town, and he had fine logic in that one.

@ Thor, what posts please. Specifically what posts. I'm pretty sure I'm misreading who's "You" and "I" in your post so I want it clear.

Here's the link filled breakdown.

Thor: question for Karanos.
Karanos: Misrep answer.
Thor: That's a misrep answer, here's clarification if you're confused, answer now?
Karanos: Defends the point of the misrep as some sort of weird 'teaching me a lesson' thing.
I cited him for dodging here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8124872
He asked, dodging what? here; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8124920 (these last two weren't in my original lineup, but are here for completeness)
Thor: ...ooookay, so will you answer now?
Karanos: What'chu talkin' about? 'quotes the misrep answer' I already did!

[Transcend]

i have never seen scum kts. but town kts doesn't give a fuck and makes all his points concise.

nothing is towny about his response to giga's RQS and then later his vote on Thor, but I'm not seeing anything scummy either bro.

[Tenshii]

Thor: question for Karanos.
Karanos: Misrep answer.
Thor: That's a misrep answer, here's clarification if you're confused, answer now?
Karanos: Defends the point of the misrep as some sort of weird 'teaching me a lesson' thing.
I cited him for dodging here: viewtopic.php?p=8124872#p8124872
He asked, dodging what? here; viewtopic.php?p=8124920#p8124920 (these last two weren't in my original lineup, but are here for completeness)
Thor: ...ooookay, so will you answer now?
Karanos: What'chu talkin' about? 'quotes the misrep answer' I already did!

Thor - question for Karanos

"What presumes that I have a scumread at that stage of the game?"

Karnos - Misrep ANSWER due to his interpretation

/ Answers your question with "So no, it doesn't make sense that at a point in the game where many players have posted several serious posts outside of RVS, you only have a read on one of them. And further, it doesn't logically follow that your town read is necessarily reading anyone else accurately."
Thor - That's a misrep answer, here's clarification if you're confused, answer now?
Karnos - "I interpreted your post in the same way Io did to me, yet you agree with her doing it to me and not me doing it to you" aka the lesson he's trying to teach you
Thor - I cited him for dodging
Karnos - Dodging what? (He already answered.)
Thor - ...ooookay, so will you answer now?
Karnos - What'chu talkin' about? 'quotes the misrep answer' I already did!

Karnos - Asked a question

"Obviously I have to be curious about that, but more importantly: how do you feel about people who flat out refuse to answer your questions?"

Io - Misrep READ due to her interpretation

[Tenshii]

Transcend, in this game, who do you not have meta on?

[Thor665]

Let's presume for a moment that you are absolutely correct and this is *exactly* how I see myself.
What presumes that I have a scum read at that stage of the game?

You are pushing this inane theory that you are really good at town-reading people but really bad at scum reading them, which doesn't pass muster.

Yeah...except I'm not saying that, and if you can see how he logically interpreted that I was saying that - I'll give you a cookie.

And let's even go on further - do you think it is legit, if he agrees that he misunderstood/misrepped me in his answer, that he doesn't need to actually answer the question because he already did a misunderstanding/misrep answer?

Like, even if I was to go along on the crazy train that is his was a reasonable misrep teaching point (and I don't) do you then think it justifies as an answer to my question about his logic?

[Thor665]

Transcend, in this game, who do you not have meta on?

I don't have meta on Transcend!

Oh, look, now that you have a Misunderstanding ANSWER you don't need an actual answer to that question, amirite?

[Tenshii]

Thor did you read my 338?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nothing is towny about his response to giga's RQS

The opposite is true, out of the first three answers to the RQS I felt kts's was the towniest. I don't feel too strongly about town!kts but I don't think he's scum either :/

[Thor665]

Thor did you read my 338?

I did - my response is in 340, and snarkily in 341.

[Transcend]

Karnos, KTS, a little bit Luna Fox not too much a little bit Io not too much.

I think that's it.

[Killthestory]

Karnos is town.

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Io

[Transcend]

what

why not vote confscum phantom

[Killthestory]

because