Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[The Engineer]

Actually nevermind

This must be those rare cases that RQS isn't scummy

No point in me answering because its echoing alot of people

Genji is surprisingly town

[vonflare]

Franky and Springlullaby have been prodded

[podoboq]

You have any reads as of yet?

You're a townread, but I read high activity as town indicative. That's a fault of mine.
Vedith seems townie from post 72.
Shadowstep is cute....Hated is a weird claim to make early, but it's not necessarily scummy. Just weird.

No scumreads at the moment. I think, for the most part, only scummy trends in play can be scum indicative, so I tend not to have scumreads early.

[Peter Elric Pines]

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe theres a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

10-3 makes sense, maybe 9-4.
No.
It would depend on the circumstances. Probably, but not necessarily.

[Genji]

I was really hoping that this game would have a whole lot more posts, maybe even a few pages when I got back. Gotta work with what you got, I guess.

You have any reads as of yet?

You're a townread, but I read high activity as town indicative. That's a fault of mine.
Vedith seems townie from post 72.
Shadowstep is cute....Hated is a weird claim to make early, but it's not necessarily scummy. Just weird.

No scumreads at the moment. I think, for the most part, only scummy trends in play can be scum indicative, so I tend not to have scumreads early.

Yeah, I am not sure how a "hated" normally works into games. As its negative utility would normally go with town depending on its other roles and mechanics. Though it can be all null depending on the moderator. I am going to call it null myself until I see something more substantive. I am worried you are just repeating my thoughts on Vedith, but that might be just paranoia.

Anyone specifically you want to hear more from right now?

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe theres a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

10-3 makes sense, maybe 9-4.
No.
It would depend on the circumstances. Probably, but not necessarily.

Interesting on 9-4. Anything specifically makes you think that?
I am guessing your not assuming that the scum team has 4, 9-4 would only take about 2 mislynches before MYLO, which is very unforgiving.

There could be multiple parties, based on the win condition of town, but that again is just more speculation.

Since we don't have a lot of to talk about, I am just going to out, I do have a sort of negative utility.
I can't vote for someone who shares a very specific passive trait that I have. This makes me think that the person(s) who have this are either town or some neutral role. Otherwise it can cause many issues in a LYLO situation where someone is against the town and I cannot vote them.

[Genji]

Actually nevermind

This must be those rare cases that RQS isn't scummy

No point in me answering because its echoing alot of people

Genji is surprisingly town

Why do you think I am town now?
I kind of find it weird you scumread me alone for RQS? I have experienced some scum using it, but I have never thought of it as scum tell.

[Peter Elric Pines]

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe there's a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

10-3 makes sense, maybe 9-4.
No.
It would depend on the circumstances. Probably, but not necessarily.

Interesting on 9-4. Anything specifically makes you think that?
I am guessing you're not assuming that the scum team has 4, 9-4 would only take about 2 mislynches before MYLO, which is very unforgiving.

There could be multiple parties, based on the win condition of town, but that again is just more speculation.

No, it was just a round-about way of saying we shouldn't be too sure it's 10-3. I wasn't really thinking about what that would mean. It makes sense that it would be 9-4 if there were two anti-town teams, but based on what I know of Overwatch, it seems like there are those on the Overwatch team, and those against the Overwatch team, which makes town and scum. I don't know who a 3rd team would be.

[Genji]

More activity is needed:
VOTE: inte

[Tracer]

Is there a specific reason for flavor hunting of roles?

Do you have a problem with his "flavor hunting"?

(I personally do not think he was flavor hunting, by the way.)

[Tracer]

Oh by the way, no matter what happens in this game today, I am today's lynch.
We can form reads all we want, but we are lynching me today.
Remember that, folks.

[Genji]

Is there a specific reason for flavor hunting of roles?

Do you have a problem with his "flavor hunting"?

(I personally do not think he was flavor hunting, by the way.)

Not in particular, though I think flavor can give hints to roles, so in some scenarios I could be against it. I don't see it being used in a scummy fashion right now.

Oh by the way, no matter what happens in this game today, I am today's lynch.
We can form reads all we want, but we are lynching me today.
Remember that, folks.

Do you have some negative utility that needs to be gone? I am very confused on why you want to be lynched.

[Shadow_step]

Hello all, I am going to be fairly active in this game.
Considering all thats going on here is RVS I will just throw out some random questions for you guys:

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe theres a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

10-3/9-2-2/9-3-1(TP)/11-2(Scum have very powerful roles)

Done already

Should always claim

[Tracer]

Do you have some negative utility that needs to be gone? I am very confused on why you want to be lynched.

No comment, because I want the suspense and surprise.

And also, because I don't want stuff to potentially go horribly wrong, I'm going to hammer my own lynch. I'm pretty sure this won't really matter but just for a safe measure let me hammer myself.

[Tracer]

Not in particular, though I think flavor can give hints to roles, so in some scenarios I could be against it. I don't see it being used in a scummy fashion right now.

Huh.
I asked because your post that I quoted earlier felt like an accusation to me.

[Shadow_step]

Oh by the way, no matter what happens in this game today, I am today's lynch.
We can form reads all we want, but we are lynching me today.
Remember that, folks.

Dafaq what..?

[Genji]

Do you have some negative utility that needs to be gone? I am very confused on why you want to be lynched.

No comment, because I want the suspense and surprise.

And also, because I don't want stuff to potentially go horribly wrong, I'm going to hammer my own lynch. I'm pretty sure this won't really matter but just for a safe measure let me hammer myself.

I don't like this attitude, and I am not going to support your lynch just based on "we are doing it"
I don't see even the reason to say this at this junction even if you think it benefits town to do so.

Though if you aren't going to mention why, I guess it gives us plenty to discuss it. I am in no way supporting it right now.

I don't understand specifically why you want to self hammer either.

[Foxbird]

Oh by the way, no matter what happens in this game today, I am today's lynch.
We can form reads all we want, but we are lynching me today.
Remember that, folks.

Uhhh, what. Why don't you wanna claim? Surely if you're town you have some sort of super negative utility that you want us to be rid of, so why not tell us?
I doubt this is a mafia thing, but it might be a third party thing. I doubt we have two Jesters, so I'm inclined to believe randomidget was actually just joking in RVS.

Hello all, I am going to be fairly active in this game.
Considering all thats going on here is RVS I will just throw out some random questions for you guys:

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe theres a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

1) With this weird claim from Tracer OR randomidget not joking, I guess it's 10-2-1 with strong mafia roles or 9-3-1 with strong town utility. Not really seeing the 10-3 anymore after recent events. If Tracer flips town I can believe 10-3.
2) No.
3) Yes, always, unless it's a rare case of not claiming damaging scum in some way.

[springlullaby]

Sorry, I forgot I was in this game. Reading.

[springlullaby]

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

[springlullaby]

^Same question @Genji.

[Genji]

Sorry, I forgot I was in this game. Reading.

This would be alright, but the next post:

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

Have you read the full game, because this shouldn't be your main concern. Even so, you can tell Tracer did not make the account before receiving role pm because you can look at their posting history.

What does this matter anyway? I doubt mod would give a player role based on their name.

^Same question @Genji.

No.

[Tracer]

I made this account before even knowing that this game exists, if you are wondering. Even though I'm prety sure my join date will answer everything.

Also, I'm not in hurry to get lynched so I see no reason to claim yet. As I said, I want to get lynched at the end of the day and not now. So, please don't waste like 3 pages trying to get any role info out of me. I will claim when the time is right and I can guarantee you I will claim before the day ends. And just to prove that I'm not a jester: getting shot by a dayvig is perfectly fine with me too.

[Tracer]

Well I guess I can claim this.
My role is not Tracer, which saddens me even right now.

[Foxbird]

Do you think that you being lynched is important for the town to win?

[Tracer]

Trust me.
You will want to lynch me after you hear my claim.

With that said, I think the hated claim is town, Ved is townish, and Genji gets an :effort: townread. I know that these are not new, but ah well. Take this as my agreement to what has been said before.