Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[springlullaby]

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

1) Have you read the full game, because this shouldn't be your main concern. 2)Even so, you can tell Tracer did not make the account before receiving role pm because you can look at their posting history.

4)What does this matter anyway? 3) I doubt mod would give a player role based on their name.

Numbers mine.

1. And what should I be concerned about?
2. Tracer has posts in only one game: this one.
3. Beside the point, I asked if you and Tracer created your accounts after receiving your role pm's.
4. It matters whether Tracer/Genji the players are claiming Tracer/Genji the roles.

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Tracer is 100% town as per her claim.
Genji and shadow-step's claim are NAI.


Genji's setup questions are scummy because it created 5 pages of worthless noise about people's irrelevant opinions on such and such. Mafia Theory talk belong in another forum. I'm face palming because the lot of you who responded can't all be scum.

Genji: justify each of your 3 questions and explain why they can benefit town.

VOTE: Genji

[springlullaby]

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@MOD could please fix my quote

? Thanks.

[vonflare]

fixed the missing quote tag

[Genji]

Numbers mine.

1. And what should I be concerned about?
2. Tracer has posts in only one game: this one.
3. Beside the point, I asked if you and Tracer created your accounts after receiving your role pm's.
4. It matters whether Tracer/Genji the players are claiming Tracer/Genji the roles.

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Tracer is 100% town as per her claim.
Genji and shadow-step's claim are NAI.


Genji's setup questions are scummy because it created 5 pages of worthless noise about people's irrelevant opinions on such and such. Mafia Theory talk belong in another forum. I'm face palming because the lot of you who responded can't all be scum.

Genji: justify each of your 3 questions and explain why they can benefit town.

1) My worries right now are people who share my passive trait, tracer claim of needing to get lynched, and possibly other negative traits that might effect the game. So I think those are more important to be worried about.
2) She posted a sign in sign ups before the game ever started. Unless mod sent her a role card before the game thread was even up, I think its safe to assume she didn't get a rolecard until after she already had the account.
3) I mentioned how this isn't possible for Tracer, and I know I didn't.
4) Why does this specifically matter?

How is Tracer claim make her town?

[Genji]

Genji's setup questions are scummy because it created 5 pages of worthless noise about people's irrelevant opinions on such and such. Mafia Theory talk belong in another forum. I'm face palming because the lot of you who responded can't all be scum.

Genji: justify each of your 3 questions and explain why they can benefit town.

Hmmm so my questions are worthless because its theory talk.
And your question about accounts is a theory too...just on a rolecard-account theory. I don't see your point here.

Mafia Theory can give you a lot of understanding of how a player perceives the games, its not 100% alignment indicative, but some of it can be. I don't agree that my questions were all theory talk, but quite a bit was trying to figure out how this setup might be organized and what players personally thought of it.

Now can you tell me, why does knowing whether or not me and Tracer have the roles respective to our names helps the town?
This is the information you are explicitly hunting for. I am curious on why though.

[Tracer]

Oh, by the way, what you (springlullaby) are suspecting me and Genji are doing is againt the "Do not bring outside influence" site rule and is a banable offense. Just saying.

[Randomnamechange]

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

1) Have you read the full game, because this shouldn't be your main concern. 2)Even so, you can tell Tracer did not make the account before receiving role pm because you can look at their posting history.

4)What does this matter anyway? 3) I doubt mod would give a player role based on their name.

Numbers mine.

1. And what should I be concerned about?
2. Tracer has posts in only one game: this one.
3. Beside the point, I asked if you and Tracer created your accounts after receiving your role pm's.
4. It matters whether Tracer/Genji the players are claiming Tracer/Genji the roles.

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Tracer is 100% town as per her claim.
Genji and shadow-step's claim are NAI.


Genji's setup questions are scummy because it created 5 pages of worthless noise about people's irrelevant opinions on such and such. Mafia Theory talk belong in another forum. I'm face palming because the lot of you who responded can't all be scum.

Genji: justify each of your 3 questions and explain why they can benefit town.

VOTE: Genji

Setup spec questions help. It gets people talking, can be used for reactions, and can catch people later. You aren't the kind of player who thinks they are better than everyone else are you?

[Genji]

Random, you had questions for me?

@Tracer thoughts on spring?

[vonflare]

I can confirm that roles were assigned to players completely at random, and at no time were there any moderator influence in role distribution.

[Tracer]

Ask me again later.

[Randomnamechange]

Random, you had questions for me?

@Tracer thoughts on spring?

Don't answer these if you don't want to.
What is your role?
Any more info on the neg utility?
Who is the other role/player?

[Shadow_step]

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

Paranoid scum?

Paranoid that they'll be read as scum for not posting content, moving the game forward etc.

[Randomnamechange]

I don't think that is necessary paranoid scum, it is a good tactic.

[springlullaby]

Because my role is Tracer.

If this is a game where players think discussing mafia theory, setup guessing and role fishing for 5 pages is good, and think me crumbing a role and questioning potentially manipulative alts is anywhere near "mafia theory", then I'm among I don't have patience for.

So, I'll just leave.

Sorry mod. Replacement please.

[Tracer]

Well, that escalated quickly.

[Randomnamechange]

I'm devastated.

[Foxbird]

That's unfortunate. :/

But yeah I think we can just conclude that the roles were distributed by Omnipotent Robots of Randomness™ so we should just move that discussion underground.

There's a lot of lynchbait in this game and like half of it is actually yelling to be lynched. I don't know what to think. Ugh.

[Randomnamechange]

I have town reads on Genji and Shadow atm, and townleans on Peter and engineer.

[Foxbird]

I have town reads on Genji and Shadow atm, and townleans on Peter and engineer.

I see the Genji/Shadow. I can maaaybe see Engineer, but why Peter?

[Genji]

Because my role is Tracer.

If this is a game where players think discussing mafia theory, setup guessing and role fishing for 5 pages is good, and think me crumbing a role and questioning potentially manipulative alts is anywhere near "mafia theory", then I'm among I don't have patience for.

So, I'll just leave.

Sorry mod. Replacement please.

1) If you have other things you wish to discuss, you are free to do so. Yelling about mafia theory isn't going to make us stop talking about it.
2) You are literally role fishing by asking for what players are claiming. This is hypocrisy.
3) What are you talking about manipulative alts?

I don't understand how your patience has run so thin when we have had so little dialogue to begin with.

I don't think any of my questions are going to be answered, but hopefully your replacement is a little less obtuse.

[Genji]

Random, you had questions for me?

@Tracer thoughts on spring?

Don't answer these if you don't want to.
What is your role?
Any more info on the neg utility?
Who is the other role/player?

1) Not going to answer that.
2) Yes.
3) I believe it is someone containing the flavor of "Zenyatta" or "Basion" with possible other people taking this also if flavor doesn't help figuring out roles.

It could easily be a fluff mechanic and neither these characters have it (Since my passive trait doesn't specify a character(s) having it), or one of them has it, or both. My thoughts are if someone has this like myself, then they are more likely town from a mechanic standpoint, but I wouldn't say it confirms them town in anyway.

[Randomnamechange]

If it is one I agree chances are they are town. If two others have it then its probs 2 town and 1 scum. But not certain.

[vonflare]

DrippingGoofBall replaces franky

[vonflare]

Replacement please.

seeking a replacement

[The Engineer]

but seriously though what the fuck is with the setup speculation and role fishing?