Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

[Dwlee99]

it would be like if you played with kain tepes and you scum read them for saying "MY TUMMYY HURTTSSS" lol

[iraonavp]

rosske wagon is the best wagon

Why?

You're on the wagon... Why would you even ask this?

[Nero Cain]

It's really not always a good thing to use the full day for a couple reasons. One is that town can overthink things and let scum push them in the wrong direction. Another is that it can just wear town down and make them less good at scumhunting.

So you think Yoshi should go ahead and hammer?

rosske wagon is the best wagon

Why?

You're on the wagon... Why would you even ask this?

I don't know why DW wasn't even voting ross

I wonder if Ira is scum that knows ross will flip town....

[iraonavp]

I think I'm just mostly paranoid that MAP is a mislynch 'cause there's been seemingly little resistance to his wagon.

59 gave me a strange vibe.

Didn't really like his "don't give DW a townread!" from 119 and 121.

334 is the kind of pressure point statement that I think scum like to make.

I'm not sure

WHY

he's scum reading Map and his Map scumread/intent to hammer feels kinda like going with the flow. He also had no reaction to me calling him scum and I think scum are more likely to avoid those type of accusations.

Sometimes I wonder if Map actually is scum and that "Rosske sounds like he could be my scummate" to throw us off.

But I'd like to hear why you and Elyse think I should town read him.

This seems like a scum-aligned thought process, because "wagon resistance" is usually scum-aligned logic to throw shade onto the wagon.

[BigYoshiFan]

I have 10 days to make a decision and y'all have 10 days to revise your decision, why not use it?

It's really not always a good thing to use the full day for a couple reasons. One is that town can overthink things and let scum push them in the wrong direction. Another is that it can just wear town down and make them less good at scumhunting.

Indeed, but I'm not entirely convinced of Rosske being scum and some town have shown that they like to take time in their decisions, and I want to give those, as well as myself, some time to really analyze what information they have.

[iraonavp]

rosske wagon is the best wagon

Why?

You're on the wagon... Why would you even ask this?

I don't know why DW wasn't even voting ross

I wonder if Ira is scum that knows ross will flip town....

Exactly, how the fuck could you even come up with this if you were town-aligned.

This makes literally no sense coming from a town-aligned player on the wagon. I think Rosske could be town-aligned, you are trying to portray me as knowing that he will flip town-aligned

while you are voting him

, that's incredibly scum-aligned.

[Zap Rowsdower]

So you think Yoshi should go ahead and hammer?

Tbh I was more arguing against the principle of using the entire day on its face. I'd rather have somebody other than Yoshi hammer tho.

[BlackStar]

rosske, you should claim

[BigYoshiFan]

It's really not always a good thing to use the full day for a couple reasons. One is that town can overthink things and let scum push them in the wrong direction. Another is that it can just wear town down and make them less good at scumhunting.

So you think Yoshi should go ahead and hammer?

I don't think that is what he is saying, he thinks that I am under the assumption that utilizing the full day is good, which I kind of am. He's just trying to explain why it may not be.

[BigYoshiFan]

So you think Yoshi should go ahead and hammer?

Tbh I was more arguing against the principle of using the entire day on its face. I'd rather have somebody other than Yoshi hammer tho.

Why is that? Because I already have a vote on Map or you don't value my newbie opinions (I won't be offended if so).

[BigYoshiFan]

rosske, you should claim

Yes please.

[BlackStar]

@map wolf
What do you think of the rosske wagon?

[Nero Cain]

This seems like a scum-aligned thought process, because "wagon resistance" is usually scum-aligned logic to throw shade onto the wagon.

yeah....no

This makes literally no sense coming from a town-aligned player on the wagon. I think Rosske could be town-aligned, you are trying to portray me as knowing that he will flip town-aligned while you are voting him, that's incredibly scum-aligned.

you have him (ross) as null yet you you also said that "he could be scum by POE" and that you have a slight town read on him. This is pretty much hedging. Its also interesting that your 3 scum reads are all on this wagon so it looks like a preemptive "blame the wagoners" but if you REALLY believed me and DW and Elyse are scum why do you not have a stronger town read?

[Nero Cain]

Zap are you scum reading me?

[iraonavp]

I try to keep my reads on some players absent from reads on the other players before they have flipped.

It's not hedging, I made my opinion clear.

[Zap Rowsdower]

Why is that? Because I already have a vote on Map or you don't value my newbie opinions (I won't be offended if so).

Because I still have you down for possible scum, and I agree with the thought that we have a good towny-lookin wagon here on Rosske. So if Rosske flips scum, it'd be fantastic to have confidence in the wagon that lynched him.

p-edit: @nero: Nah, I lean town on you

[Nero Cain]

This seems like a scum-aligned thought process, because "wagon resistance" is usually scum-aligned logic to throw shade onto the wagon.

Do you have any examples of this?

[iraonavp]

No, of course not, and you don't really care about the answer, you just want reasons to accuse me. Just like all of the other questions you ask...

[iraonavp]

Every question already has a clear answer and is just rhetoric for "try and lynch these town-aligned players" thinly disguised as "scumhunting".

[Nero Cain]

So you have no examples but you just some how know this is scum logic? Yea

I'm

the one that's making up shit to accuse you with.

I think you are incredibly fake yes.

[Dwlee99]

Iraonpvp doesn't even respond to my problems with his scum-read on me
dank
VOTE: iraonpvp
fuck the ross wagon i want this

[Dwlee99]

tbh would probably want you policy'd for saying "town-aligned" and "scum-aligned" EVEN WHEN IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE
but yea you're actually scum

[iraonavp]

What, your question about how my read on you was wrong?

[Dwlee99]

Yes, he just makes all these feeble posts.

... show me one example in any of my games where I post non-"feeble" content in your opinion. lol

like seriously iraon are you scum? Cause your scum read on me is total shit

it would be like if you played with kain tepes and you scum read them for saying "MY TUMMYY HURTTSSS" lol

[Map Wolf]

@map wolf
What do you think of the rosske wagon?

I feel the tone in some of his posts feel scummy. 344 sounds like a scumpush, as it is an assumption, and it is a very simple argument. 439 is a very weak "defense" for being voted on, and is not very logically sound since he has only jumped on two wagons.

its funny that

Rosske

hasn't posted since his

wagon accusation

.....looks like scum who

got scumread,

and now is laying low hoping it all will go away

Now i feel he is leaning scum. He hasn't adressed much, but there may be more reasons for that. Not posting since being wagoned might not really mean much.
Also i am not gonna vote since i think that would be a hammer, and we can't say yet if/when we are going to hammer.