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No Retreat
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In post 675, No Retreat wrote:DAT BACKPEDLING!Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Who are you?In post 675, No Retreat wrote:DAT BACKPEDLING!-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Nero Cain Survivor
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chain lynching is lynching people back to back. No Retreat is my alt that I accidentally posted here with.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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MariaR Alternatively,
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In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:I think one of you has to be right here. Like you as town should be right about this (especially since I share your read) and iraonpvp seems fairly certain in his read.
These two statements contradict. Your 668 deff says that I have to be town and right on Ira but if I'm wrong on Ira then Ira is right.In post 674, Dwlee99 wrote:It isnt like I will be able to say "nero flipped town ira is definitely scum!!" or vice versa
that is a completely different argument than "Oh I could see Nero pushing a mislynch on Ira so if Ira flips town then it means Nero is scum."Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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MariaR Alternatively,
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I still don't get the giant sr on either of the 3 players unless I'm a blind bat I guess I should re read a bit because I have all 3 of you in my top 5 I don't want to lynch list (btw how do you guys feel about said list agrees disagrees?) Well you obv disagree with some reads but you understand what I'm asking.-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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are you gonna argue over semantics right now. It is pretty clear that I never thought you were definitely scum if ira flips town or vice versa. Key word: Definitely.In post 683, Nero Cain wrote:In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:I think one of you has to be right here. Like you as town should be right about this (especially since I share your read) and iraonpvp seems fairly certain in his read.
These two statements contradict. Your 668 deff says that I have to be town and right on Ira but if I'm wrong on Ira then Ira is right.In post 674, Dwlee99 wrote:It isnt like I will be able to say "nero flipped town ira is definitely scum!!" or vice versa
that is a completely different argument than "Oh I could see Nero pushing a mislynch on Ira so if Ira flips town then it means Nero is scum."I prefer they, thanks :)-
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DW, what do you like about Ira's case on me?
Maria, why do you think town would EVER go "one of you HAS to be right on the other (and if you are wrong you are scum)."Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Well I agree that in itself is scummy (I assume this post is towards DW) I have him marked as town mostly because he's tone seems like upset town to meIn post 686, Nero Cain wrote:DW, what do you like about Ira's case on me?
Maria, why do you think town would EVER go "one of you HAS to be right on the other (and if you are wrong you are scum)."-
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ok, So your argument that one of us had to be right about the other was ??? 'cause I honestly see no other explanation but pitting one against the other.In post 685, Dwlee99 wrote:
are you gonna argue over semantics right now. It is pretty clear that I never thought you were definitely scum if ira flips town or vice versa. Key word: Definitely.In post 683, Nero Cain wrote:In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:I think one of you has to be right here. Like you as town should be right about this (especially since I share your read) and iraonpvp seems fairly certain in his read.
These two statements contradict. Your 668 deff says that I have to be town and right on Ira but if I'm wrong on Ira then Ira is right.In post 674, Dwlee99 wrote:It isnt like I will be able to say "nero flipped town ira is definitely scum!!" or vice versa
that is a completely different argument than "Oh I could see Nero pushing a mislynch on Ira so if Ira flips town then it means Nero is scum."Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Nothing..In post 686, Nero Cain wrote:DW, what do you like about Ira's case on me?
Maria, why do you think town would EVER go "one of you HAS to be right on the other (and if you are wrong you are scum)."
I think that ira is scum. I'm saying on the off chance he flips town you could be scum cause of it.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee never said that.In post 686, Nero Cain wrote:DW, what do you like about Ira's case on me?
Maria, why do you think town would EVER go "one of you HAS to be right on the other (and if you are wrong you are scum)."
Dwlee sounds much more genuine in his latest posts than Nero Cain, who is grandstanding heavily.-
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Posts like this are over-the-top compared to how NeroCain seems to be trying to settle things in his other posts. Like he just is pointing out something scum-aligned Dwlee did triumphantly even though he knows Dwlee is town-aligned...In post 675, No Retreat wrote:DAT BACKPEDLING!-
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Yes he misrepresented it as that when Dwlee tried to explained how that wasn't the case. There was more nuance in Dwlee's argument but all that NeroCain chose was the surface level.In post 691, MariaR wrote:I think Nero took the post as Dw saying it HAS to be scum but DW meant it as it Nero could be scum who caused the lynch am I right?-
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In post 690, iraonavp wrote:Dwlee never said that.In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:I think one of you has to be right here.In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:I think one of you has to be right here.
onehasto be rightOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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holy crap this got kinda active. Can we get a vote log if possible? I'm pretty sure like 6 people changed their votes. Right now, I see no reason to change my vote on BYF. I still don't like the things I explained earlier. ira/nero and ira/byf aren't teamed imo from what I can tell with ira' interactions so far. I don't think rosskee and byf are teamed either. Those are some small reads I have rn.-
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Why do you think I'm teamed with Ira?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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oh AREN'T, nm.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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iraonavp Mafia Scum
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This sounds honest and it makes me trust Dwlee.In post 674, Dwlee99 wrote:I knew I was gonna be scum read for it but I like saying what is on my mind and not concealing my thoughts about the game as town. Ive seen people use the "oh theyre trying to chain lynch" reason to scum read people and it is almost always used to scum read town. And when has the strategy of setting up chain lynches as scum ever worked? It never does. It never will. It isnt like I will be able to say "nero flipped town ira is definitely scum!!" or vice versa, it just affects my reads and is how I think the flips will determine your or ira's alignments.
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