Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[farside22]

Sigh

I don't have all the energy in the world, but I checked the game that wing reference, looked at this game a bit and I'm giving infinty his crown on reading newb better.
I'll get more details Tuesday.
*waits for Infinity to say I told you so*

[Infinity 324]

I TOLD YOU SO

[Shadow_step]

@Wingback, read on MM

It all started off at the end of day 1 when MM tries to put shade on lane to set him up for a lynch on day 2.
After that I isoed him and these things stuck out.

In post 90 he gives a readlist which is basically commentary and he calls a lot of people null, therefore making it very easy for him to change his reads on players whithouy explaining much.

I have the same probkem Moi has with that post which he points our in post107.

In post 61 he mentions the 1250 abilities.

In post 130 he says he made a mistake of assuming they were for $1000, which I think he said just to get lane off his back.

[Shadow_step]

ow is any of this town?
You vote who you think is scum and not which wagon is most likely to go through, especially when there is NP case on them.

If this is town we deserve to lose. I can't be arsed anymore.

VOTE: Shadow Step

I don't like the AtE used here, I think its completely out of place and fake.

GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY YOU THINK I'M SCUM.

[farside22]

I TOLD YOU SO

Listen I had thought based on the newb game he played that he was a lot more articulate and able to express himself.
The bumbling, lack of reads, tantrum was reading as flailing around.
The Link wing shared was a completed scum game where he was being voted and didn't act at all like that and was very calm and relaxed.
That's pretty surprising to see from a noob.

Anyways I'm going to have a bigger post late.

In case something happens while I'm gone and a hammer happens I'd like to bring up day 3, briefly.

I was thinking that if Infinity lives he should be given money for the first game win.
If he dies and flips cop, then wingback should receive the first pot to become bulletproof.

[Fire Assassin]

GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY YOU THINK I'M SCUM.

Fake AtE?

[farside22]

Fire: While your around, can you explain why you have a scum read on RC, but vote for Shadow for a weak reason.

I have been avoiding this game awhile because of recent events and because I have been wanting to use my vig shot on like a third of the aliving player base.
I am leaning heavily that Farside is town right now, and i could possibly see RC being scum. I don't know where someone said RC or Farside, but I doubt heavily on farside based on what I think of as normal scum play and she hasn't displayed any of those traits to me.

ow is any of this town?
You vote who you think is scum and not which wagon is most likely to go through, especially when there is NP case on them.

If this is town we deserve to lose. I can't be arsed anymore.

VOTE: Shadow Step
I don't like the AtE used here, I think its completely out of place and fake.

Providing quotes for reference.

[Fire Assassin]

Fire: While your around, can you explain why you have a scum read on RC, but vote for Shadow for a weak reason.

RC for me can be wrong and I think I can tell AtE is fake better. Why do you think that reason is weak?

[Infinity 324]

I TOLD YOU SO

Listen I had thought based on the newb game he played that he was a lot more articulate and able to express himself.
The bumbling, lack of reads, tantrum was reading as flailing around.
The Link wing shared was a completed scum game where he was being voted and didn't act at all like that and was very calm and relaxed.
That's pretty surprising to see from a noob.

Anyways I'm going to have a bigger post late.

In case something happens while I'm gone and a hammer happens I'd like to bring up day 3, briefly.

I was thinking that if Infinity lives he should be given money for the first game win.
If he dies and flips cop, then wingback should receive the first pot to become bulletproof.

Hehe, it's a lot different when you have pressure on you from the start...

Your plan makes sense, if I'm still alive tomorrow it will let me live to get my second result. If not, wingback becomes conf town so yeah.

[Fire Assassin]

Wingback is conf town regardless. Thats like the easiest clear you could have made ever, everyone was townreading them anyways.

[Infinity 324]

Well it may have been a bad choice, a lot was unclear for me after the faq2 flip and persivul's ISO was ehh

[Shadow_step]

Fake AtE?

funny, when you do it, it is supposed to be genuine.

I'm genuinely pissed, give me one reason why you think it's okay for lane and rc to be voting me ?

[Fire Assassin]

You just said way more than you were supposed to.

[Shadow_step]

really? shit

@mod can you delete that post?

[Shadow_step]

@Shadow_step, still need a couple of things answered from you: 1) Can you walk me through how your read on Farside changed? You say in Post 828 that she made a very self-conscious post, and elaborate in Post 843. Then suddenly in Post 1147, you sheep her onto RedCoyote seemingly forgetting the earlier suspicion and have her as nullish town in Post 1159.

I found the response to my accusation to be town and by the time of 1147 I had already expressed my concerns about the RC slot. Farside's push on RC seems genuine and I have no reason to scum read the slot.

Farside calling me non existent, I found that kinda hypocritical, I checked the posts, farside only had 33 post on day 1 when she replaced in and calling me non existent when i essentially replaced in on day 2 was weird.

[Something_Smart]

I think Fire should shoot Infinity iff Shadow flips town.

[farside22]

I think Fire should shoot Infinity iff Shadow flips town.

Why?

[Something_Smart]

Hmm I also think there's one scum in <Shadow_step, Infinity>. I want to scumread them both but they make no sense as partners.

Also, Shadow seemed to imply that he knew that there were 3 scum, and there being 3 scum makes Infinity's claim more believable.

[farside22]

Hmm I also think there's one scum in <Shadow_step, Infinity>. I want to scumread them both but they make no sense as partners.

Also, Shadow seemed to imply that he knew that there were 3 scum, and there being 3 scum makes Infinity's claim more believable.

So you think Infinity is pushing another player and not taking the opportunity to jump on smart wagon because... ???

[Something_Smart]

On what wagon?

[farside22]

Fire: While your around, can you explain why you have a scum read on RC, but vote for Shadow for a weak reason.

RC for me can be wrong and I think I can tell AtE is fake better. Why do you think that reason is weak?

AtE fake is an assumption and not based on anything realistic

[farside22]

On what wagon?

Shadown wagon.
If you haven't noticed there is aboutique 3 votes on him currently and Infinity switched wagons, so I'm curious why you think scum would switch with a growing wagon.

[Something_Smart]

Lol @ those autocorrects.
I don't know why he would switch. I mean, the obvious reason would be to capitalize on RC pressure and maybe score a mislynch there while keeping Shadow around to mislynch later.
That would make him a likely partner with you. I haven't looked at the ISOs though so I don't know how plausible that is.

[farside22]

Lol @ those autocorrects.
I don't know why he would switch. I mean, the obvious reason would be to capitalize on RC pressure and maybe score a mislynch there while keeping Shadow around to mislynch later.
That would make him a likely partner with you. I haven't looked at the ISOs though so I don't know how plausible that is.

*count down to town loss.*

Did you even read the case on RC or are you on tunnelling mode?

[Something_Smart]

Lol @ those autocorrects.
I don't know why he would switch. I mean, the obvious reason would be to capitalize on RC pressure and maybe score a mislynch there while keeping Shadow around to mislynch later.
That would make him a likely partner with you. I haven't looked at the ISOs though so I don't know how plausible that is.

*count down to town loss.*

Did you even read the case on RC or are you on tunnelling mode?

Umm... no? I'm in hypothetical mode, where Infinity is scum. If Infinity is scum then I doubt RC is his partner because of that jump. As illustrated by my vote, I think the scum in that pair is more likely Shadow.