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GuyInFreezer · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:47 pm

So mafia is shooting a vig.
Wonder who he'll clear?

Lapsa · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:47 pm

DUNN FACTOR

Titus · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:51 am

Welcome Dunn.

Titus · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:52 am

I would try to sell a second mafia rb here but a50 is cooked lol.

Titus · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:21 am

Zach, wtf man?

beeboy · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:00 pm

I honestly have a lot of trouble seeing A50 pull this given his fake claim unless he throws on a 5-shot restriction or can convince town he fake claimed without shots left.
Dwlee did it in cyberpunk because he didn't have to confirm a townie every day phase but A50 is different.
Although town thinks 5 scum so it isn't that relevant.

AGar · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 179, Titus wrote:Zach, wtf man?

I mean, the game has gotten to a point where I can't blame him. He's been dead on for most of the game, and every time he said someone was town, some sect of the town has gone blatantly against that (Dunn shooting Wake, people [myself included] trying to lynch you, my lynch). Dude has got to be on his wits end, fried, and then some.

AGar · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:28 pm

Boem at L-1 supah fast. Oh boy.

Wake1 · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:30 pm

I still don't see why Dunnstral would shoot me. From a Town perspective my Bomb-crumb made sense, for the reasons listed above. If I were Scum claiming Bomb, how believable would that be? If you're crumbing Bomb to put players who can kill on edge, it'd make more sense coming from Town. If I were Scum I'd wait with claiming until L1 with something better, not crumb Bomb crumbs to make Scum worried as hell about how to get rid of me. And what if I was actually a Town Bomb? Why risk it?

Wake1 · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Also, did Dunnstral target anyone last Night?

Titus · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:40 pm

In post 183, Wake1 wrote:I still don't see why Dunnstral would shoot me. From a Town perspective my Bomb-crumb made sense, for the reasons listed above. If I were Scum claiming Bomb, how believable would that be? If you're crumbing Bomb to put players who can kill on edge, it'd make more sense coming from Town. If I were Scum I'd wait with claiming until L1 with something better, not crumb Bomb crumbs to make Scum worried as hell about how to get rid of me. And what if I was actually a Town Bomb? Why risk it?

It made sense to you.

A vig sees you tunnelling on his largest townread. You're obviously fakeclaiming bomb. Why would you do that? You're scum looking to survive after I flipped town.

Sure, there's a minor risk but it removes a strong anti-town influence from the game.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:45 pm

Zach is really the MVP of this game.

And I'm not being sarcastic.

Wake1 · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:50 pm

It made sense to me because I believe it's an effective strategy against Scum. So what if he sees me tunneling on his largest Townread? This is Mafia, and Town tunnel Town all the time. I didn't fakeclaim Bomb Titus. Lying is wrong, so please don't lie about what I did. I already explained why I crumbed Bomb. I'd rather have Dunnstral explain his reasoning himself, rather than you interpret why he did what he did. I wasn't a strong anti-Town influence in this game and you saying so is just... *Shakes head* Also, do you see the rationale of why I would crumb being a Bomb?

Wake1 · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:50 pm

GIF, could you share your honest opinion on this?

Wake1 · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:52 pm

In post 186, GuyInFreezer wrote:Zach is really the MVP of this game.

And I'm not being sarcastic.

He's better than I initially gave him credit for.

Also, he's in that all-too-familiar position where you're right and yet fighting to redirect the Town.

beeboy · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:04 pm

In post 186, GuyInFreezer wrote:Zach is really the MVP of this game.

And I'm not being sarcastic.

I agree with this Zach is doing incredibly well.

Lapsa · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:09 pm

In post 0, GuyInFreezer wrote:Dunnstral, Town Vigilante, was
lynched
Night 5.

hah

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:13 pm

In post 188, Wake1 wrote:GIF, could you share your honest opinion on this?

People have different opinions about what is right and wrong. What you may think is right can be thought as wrong by others, and vice versa. Same with towntells/scumtells. What you may think is a towntell can be thought as a scumtell, and what you think is a scumtell can be thought as a null by others. If you want my honest opinion about Town as a general this game,

f***ing ridiculous

many strong voices clashing to an entirely different path. People really shouldn't blame others for their reads, because different people has different way of reading others and sometimes, it's not correct way of reading certain people. Now, I know that you tried your best to convey others your reads and push your reads. I know Titus did the same even though it is unfortunate that she was cornered to be forced to do that mason thing. Zach did his best, AGar did his best, Dunnstral did his best (if you don't think so, remember that he was a vig), etc. I have no problem with Town's play individually, really. The fake mason claim shenanigan lasted just too long because town didn't let the situation sort itself. I mean, if they really are masons and not scum, surely scum will kill them off eventually, right? It is unfortunate that beeboy was vigged too early (and to be honest, he shouldn't have fakeclaimed miller when there is a flipping vig around lol).

I expected this game to be over by Night 4 when there was a mafia jailkeeper flipped, really. Mafia was just in bad position. Nosferatu just had to leave that scummy af comment right before he replaced out, Mirhawk scumslipped, and there are just too many obvious towns beaming with their towniness. (And for that motion sensor mod error, really, my bad on that part. I read that last part in the wiki as a variation of the role <.< But fortunately I don't think the error made it lean too town. And town shouldn't really think that it confirms Transcend as town, because mafia could have a same role and have his error fixed just like that.) And A50 trading claim with A10 was a really really bad move. I really don't know why town think that there is a town jailkeeper with mafia jailkeeper along with the doctor chain.

TL;DR I think town performed well individually, just clashed a lot to be an absolute chaos. I mean, in all that chaos, 3/4 scums were lynched by Day 4. That's flapping amazing.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:14 pm

In post 191, Lapsa wrote:
In post 0, GuyInFreezer wrote:Dunnstral, Town Vigilante, was
lynched
Night 5.
hah

Dunnstral · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:28 pm

I FORGOT TO SHOOT SOMEONE

I woulda shot boem

Oh well

Dunnstral · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:31 pm

In post 34, Wake1 wrote:Did beeboy catch someone?

Then Dunnstral probably deserves to be blacklisted.

What's wrong with that retard? And no, if the shoe fits it stays.

You counter claimed vig.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:33 pm

Wait where did he counterclaim vig

Wake1 · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:34 pm

In post 195, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 34, Wake1 wrote:Did beeboy catch someone?

Then Dunnstral probably deserves to be blacklisted.

What's wrong with that retard? And no, if the shoe fits it stays.
You counter claimed vig.

Are you saying I claimed Vig in response to you?

If so, I think you're meaning a different player.

Wake1 · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:34 pm

Also thumbs up on the 192 GIF.

Wake1 · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Do you know the difference between a Vigilante and a Bomb?