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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:32 pm

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In post 322, Wake1 wrote:Tracer said she feared being NK'd by Scum, but I'm Town; lynching isn't the same as being NK'd.
We will let mod decide the distinction
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:33 pm

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In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Scum would want to lynch tracer if it makes them scum aligned. Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
I think Tracer is lying, because my role PM is Town.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:33 pm

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In post 316, podoboq wrote:
In post 312, vonflare wrote:DoctorPepper (1) - Turret
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:34 pm

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In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
Because I can't trust people to make what seemed like the smart decision Day 1.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:34 pm

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In post 326, Wake1 wrote:
In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Scum would want to lynch tracer if it makes them scum aligned. Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
I think Tracer is lying, because my role PM is Town.
You think tracer is or was scum?
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:35 pm

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In post 326, Wake1 wrote:
In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Scum would want to lynch tracer if it makes them scum aligned. Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
I think Tracer is lying, because my role PM is Town.
This is a non explanation, which makes me question you further on your motivations.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 329, Genji wrote:
In post 326, Wake1 wrote:
In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Scum would want to lynch tracer if it makes them scum aligned. Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
I think Tracer is lying, because my role PM is Town.
You think tracer is or was scum?
Actually, I don't think she is either: her fear was of being converted from a Scum NK yet I am Town.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 330, Genji wrote:
In post 326, Wake1 wrote:
In post 321, Genji wrote:
In post 319, Wake1 wrote:
In post 315, Genji wrote:Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?
Please explain this.
Scum would want to lynch tracer if it makes them scum aligned. Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?
I think Tracer is lying, because my role PM is Town.
This is a non explanation, which makes me question you further on your motivations.
What else can I say besides she's lying?
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:37 pm

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I need Tracer to come in and explain herself, because she shouldn't be alive right now and she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:38 pm

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Why would she fear of being turned if she wasn't neutral or town aligned to begin with? Can you explain why scum would do this sort of action, which is highly unorthordox so that they could hammer self?

Do you still think tracer is lying about alignment?
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:39 pm

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At this point, I don't think Tracer is Town.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 333, Wake1 wrote:I need Tracer to come in and explain herself, because she shouldn't be alive right now and she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
Yes she did.
In post 250, Tracer wrote:
In post 246, Wake1 wrote:
In post 245, Tracer wrote:I'm trying to burn my 1-shot deathproof with one hell of a twist.
What you should do is disclose exactly what your ability is.
If my deathproof is used by a mafia kill I turn into a mafia traitor. Now you know why I want to get lynched today.

Yes that means I also have a mafia win condition in my role PM lol

(It's worded like there is a potential third party.)
She made it explicit that she's deathproof, not night immune. She is saved from the first kill of any sort, and said that getting lynched (by town, assumedly) would convert her to complete town.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 333, Wake1 wrote:I need Tracer to come in and explain herself, because she shouldn't be alive right now and she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
She mentioned killing attempts converting her, by her reasoning we should lynch her again to COnFIRM your alignment, do you disagree?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:40 pm

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In fact, she should be lynched: if again she doesn't die from being hung... well wtf.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 pm

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In post 337, Genji wrote:
In post 333, Wake1 wrote:I need Tracer to come in and explain herself, because she shouldn't be alive right now and she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
She mentioned killing attempts converting her, by her reasoning we should lynch her again to COnFIRM your alignment, do you disagree?
She said nothing about being hung; I do not understand one bit why she's still alive, but I am in favor of lynching her again to figure out what is going on.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 pm

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In post 334, Genji wrote:Why would she fear of being turned if she wasn't neutral or town aligned to begin with? Can you explain why scum would do this sort of action, which is highly unorthordox so that they could hammer self?

Do you still think tracer is lying about alignment?
Honestly, I don't understand what's happening.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:42 pm

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In post 336, podoboq wrote:
In post 333, Wake1 wrote:I need Tracer to come in and explain herself, because she shouldn't be alive right now and she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
Yes she did.
Where?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:43 pm

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This is what I am getting at why didn't you at least let tracer have a chance at self hammer, you didn't at all.
If tracer avoided it I would understand more but you just took it. I am trying to understand your actions more.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:43 pm

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In post 336, podoboq wrote: She made it explicit that she's deathproof, not night immune. She is saved from the first kill of any sort, and said that getting lynched (by town, assumedly) would convert her to complete town.
Where are you reading this?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 342, Genji wrote:This is what I am getting at why didn't you at least let tracer have a chance at self hammer, you didn't at all.
If tracer avoided it I would understand more but you just took it. I am trying to understand your actions more.
As Town you don't always have to have a reason for doing things; I already explained why I hammered, because too often Town tries to walk out of doing the right move.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:45 pm

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In post 333, Wake1 wrote:she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
In post 245, Tracer wrote:I'm trying to burn my 1-shot deathproof with one hell of a twist.
In post 245, Tracer wrote:I'm trying to burn my 1-shot deathproof
In post 245, Tracer wrote:1-shot deathproof
In post 266, Tracer wrote:I did say that I won't die. I just lock in my alignment as town.
In post 275, Tracer wrote:That there's a possobility that I LIED and I will be lynched?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:45 pm

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Tracer and Wake are both town.
So let's move on.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:45 pm

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I also want to understand the NAR of this game: Vonflare, is 'conversion' a factional ability that can be done at the same time as a factional NK?
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 346, Vedith wrote:Tracer and Wake are both town.
So let's move on.
Can you explain this in more detail I can't tell wakes motivations right now.
I think tracers are clear.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 345, Tracer wrote:
In post 333, Wake1 wrote:she certainly didn't mention anything about not being able to die from a lynch.
In post 245, Tracer wrote:I'm trying to burn my 1-shot deathproof with one hell of a twist.
In post 245, Tracer wrote:I'm trying to burn my 1-shot deathproof
In post 245, Tracer wrote:1-shot deathproof
In post 266, Tracer wrote:I did say that I won't die. I just lock in my alignment as town.
In post 275, Tracer wrote:That there's a possobility that I LIED and I will be lynched?
I remember asking you for specifics about the deathproof, but you couldn't clarify if that meant being lynched.
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