Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

DoctorPepper · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:25 pm

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

vonflare · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:26 pm

I can't give out any information about players' roles.

Wake1 · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:29 pm

In post 401, vonflare wrote:I can't give out any information about players' roles.

How about mechanics?

podoboq · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:40 pm

In post 401, vonflare wrote:I can't give out any information about players' roles.

I would suggest that if Tracer has a question about her own role, she asks vonflare in pm.

Vonflare might me able to clarify this kind of stuff to her in private, but clarifying anything in thread would essentially confirm her, which is something that he can't really do.

All this said, I'm working from the assumption that Tracer was telling the truth, and that Wake's alignment has no effect on her alignment. I doubt a scum hammer would count as a scum kill for the purposes of recruiting her.

Still, it's better to have confirmation. Tracer, could you please ask vonflare about that privately, and get back to us if you get an answer?

Tracer · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:30 pm

I actually got myself an answer!
Hammer doesn't affect it.

Doesn't change that Wake slot is town though.

Tracer · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:31 pm

In post 400, DoctorPepper wrote:Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Is that what you think?
Then I suggest a mass flavor claim.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:15 pm

^I'm sure Mafia have mod given flavor claims in this case. However, this is kinda undisputed to me, as I dont see how this makes sense flavorwise

Tracer · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:38 pm

I was thinking of Widow/Hanzo fake, and Reaper/Soldier76 fake lol

DoctorPepper · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:41 pm

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Tracer · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:50 pm

I personally don't think there are 3 scums since I could've turned into a traitor.

Vedith · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:41 pm

@Tracer - Keep in mind it was not a high chance of you turning traitor and scum possibly would not know that you turned.
2 scum in a 13 player game with a possible traitor is too weak for scum, there will be 3 imo.

Considering that Wakes hammer would not have had impact on Tracer then I'm happy to go here for now.

VOTE: Wake

Concerning revealing flavour, I think is a bad idea so soon. As stated the scum will easily have fake claims, I'll be surprised if not, and there's possibly certain names that effect scum/town.

Wake1 · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:16 am

What's your rationale Vedith?

Randomnamechange · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:50 am

VOTE: Wake
I refuse to believe that you cannot read.

Vedith · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:15 am

In post 411, Wake1 wrote:What's your rationale Vedith?

Concerning which part?
Tracer being town? You possibly being scum? Revealing characters probably isn't wise?

The Engineer · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:23 am

are we really voting wake?

Because I'm not

Foxbird · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:24 am

Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

DoctorPepper wrote:Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't

have

to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

The Engineer · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:24 am

VOTE: Doctorpepper

I'm with turret here

Vedith · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:38 am

In post 414, The Engineer wrote:are we really voting wake?

Because I'm not

What do you like about Wake in this ssituation?
Is he town for you?

Wake1 · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:42 am

Sorry, but you won't be lynching me today.

Randomnamechange · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:42 am

In post 415, Foxbird wrote:Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

DoctorPepper wrote:Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is
Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't
have
to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

People are scumreading it because he made a scummy as fuck hammer and is trying to deflect attention away from him and onto Tracer

Wake1 · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:47 am

Knowing that I'm Town, and if Tracer is in fact still Town, then she's Town and is not to be lynched.

Vedith · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:48 am

In post 420, Wake1 wrote:Knowing that I'm Town, and if Tracer is in fact still Town, then she's Town and is not to be lynched.

So, if not you or Tracer, where else should we look?

Wake1 · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:49 am

As Tracer clarified via mod, hammers can't change her alignment; that you consider it Scummy causes me to wonder about you randomidget, and I think we're a proper explanation.

Wake1 · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:50 am

In post 421, Vedith wrote:
In post 420, Wake1 wrote:Knowing that I'm Town, and if Tracer is in fact still Town, then she's Town and is not to be lynched.
So, if not you or Tracer, where else should we look?

Tentatively, I'm trusting Tracer; I need to understand why exactly DGB was killed.

Randomnamechange · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:55 am

Either because they are a strong player or because they had good reads.