How much have things shifted?
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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How much have things shifted?
I was looking at the queues and both theme queues in need of mods??
Discussions about things like GF's being bastard modding? Or blacklisted?
What else I have missed in my long absence-
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Is it really that dead? I mean some of them I could see, but the theme queues being almost instant is shocking.
These damn kids with their pokemon go's and throwin' shade.-
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Godfathers died along with the queues unfortunately.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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The players have gotten worse, the games have gotten less frequent, everything is bad.
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players are coddled these days
even mild disagreement or emotion can be considered abuse
cop sanities are considered "bastard," even if the player isn't told they're sane
players rely endlessly on meta and quickly "confirm" one another "as town," thus reducing the lynch options to POE
hydra use is rampant, resulting in less players queuing for a single slot, instead using two, three, even four players to take one slot instead of those players finding another game
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To be more serious, my theory is that what happened is that many of the weirder/more experimental games moved from Mini Theme to Micro. This meant that more games total were being run due to the smaller playerlists, and thus that a greater supply of moderators was needed than before. Many of these experimental Micros had trouble filling (players generally seem reluctant to join a Micro without some sort of firm clue as to what it involves, perhaps due to being burnt in the past, and for a while there was a relatively small set of people who played in most Micros as a result). The consequence was that mod churn became even faster, especially in the Micro queue, and it actually ran out of moderators recently. (Meanwhile, if you place an Open or Normal in the Micro queue, or a popular Theme, it fills quite quickly, so there's player demand there.)
The decline of Large Themes is a little harder to explain, but it may be just that they take a lot of effort to run and moderators aren't willing to put in the effort for that. (From my point of view, I kind-of want to run a Large Theme sometime, but I've literally spent months working on it, am still not happy with where it is at the moment, and it's unlikely to be anything particularly special even if it does happen; this is arguably the amount of effort it takes even to run a mediocre, average Large Theme.)
I'm pretty familiar with the situation with Godfathers, though. What happened is that moderators became increasingly reluctant to put them in games (at least partly because Cop has been falling out of favour as a role for a while), with the result that when you did put a Godfather in a game, most of the time it did nothing and sometimes it won scum the game randomly (because it was generally correct play for town to dismiss the possibility). Godfather's a role that either has to be used frequently, or not at all, in order to function correctly, and site meta fell on the "not at all" side.
@kuribo: It's far from unheard of for a mod to tell someone that they're a Cop of unknown sanity, and list all the possible sanities and what their game effect would be. That's not considered bastard (although on the other hand it necessarily creates modWIFOM, and modWIFOM is a hard thing to balance around as it's hard to predict how the player will react). Actually, I'd argue that one of the main limitations on setup design nowadays is that players expect games to be at least relatively balanced, which means they have to be reviewed, which means that it's hard to use a role that's a pain to review correctly.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town-
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Everything you say makes me hurt in the face behind my face doom style.In post 9, kuribo wrote:
players are coddled these days
even mild disagreement or emotion can be considered abuse
cop sanities are considered "bastard," even if the player isn't told they're sane
players rely endlessly on meta and quickly "confirm" one another "as town," thus reducing the lynch options to POE
hydra use is rampant, resulting in less players queuing for a single slot, instead using two, three, even four players to take one slot instead of those players finding another game
it is the darkest timeline, my old friend
Hydras, meta and feeling shields? Jesus. The SDC falls away to hugglekisses?
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Maybe its time for some counter culture. Bring back the beasts-
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I'm already back.In post 12, SpyreX wrote: Maybe its time for some counter culture. Bring back the beastsOnly playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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Hydras and meta irritate me
I don't think player coddling is an issueThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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