New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Transcend]

no one knows at most we have 1 mislynch left and we might not even have that lol

[kraska77]

Shannon all the questions you directed at me are stuff I already answered
And a me-a50 team is ridiculous
For me it's either a shannon lynch today or no lynch

[Transcend]

i just wanna lynch a50 bc i townread everyone else and implosion is conf town

[kraska77]

Except if a50 were scum, why were there 0 NKs on night 4? Implosion protected a50 so... a kill should have happened
Unless zach is scum and i dont think he is

[kraska77]

Let's stop going around in circles -__-

[implosion]

All my reports have been accurate

In what way does this clear you?
For what reason can't you possibly be a mafia motion detector?

[Transcend]

you're right, it doesn't clear me

but i'm town <3

[shannon]

Shannon all the questions you directed at me are stuff I already answered
And a me-a50 team is ridiculous
For me it's either a shannon lynch today or no lynch

Kraska, if you're town your reasoning is flawed. Here's why.

Assuming one scum is left:

Lynch me today and a successful NK = 3:1 which makes town in MYLO. If you aren't willing to accept any other candidates for scum, you've got to be pretty certain about me to take this risk (and it's a wrong risk to take, because I'm towny as). You're going to have to find another scum candidate tomorrow if this happens, so you better start looking at them now.

Assuming two scum are left:

Lynch me today and a successful night kill = 2:2 = town loses.

By all means, continue on as though you think I'm the scum. But I can tell you I'm not, so you better use the rest of today to work out who else looks suspicious, because if you lynch me town is either going to MYLO or we've lost outright.

A better strategy for Town Kraska should be -

Assuming one scum is left:

Lynch (someone else who everyone else thinks is suss) and a successful NK = 3:1 MYLO. It's still not me that's scum, and I might even be the NK, but at least you've given town one more day to reason with you, and everyone else has got a chance to off someone they agree is more suspicious.

Bonus idea: Jailkeeper on me tonight. Scum, if they don't make the night kill in order to try to finger me, will be at 4:1 and that gives us another lynch (3:1) plus a night kill (2:1) and then we're in LYLO. A whole extra day to work out who's scummy, if scum try this strategy.


Assuming two scum are left:

Lynch (anyone except the JK) today and have the JK on me tonight. I can't possibly kill anyone (not that I could anyway, town, remember) and we'll have another candidate for oh wait, doesn't matter, we've lost if we mislynch today and there are two scum.


Basically, Kraska, if you lynch me today and the scum team is 2 players, we're stuffed. I've also outlined how any other strategy than lynching me today should be useful to you, because it potentially gives town another day to work out what's going on. If I'm scum, and you're 'on to me', then I'm only delaying the inevitable because I fully expect you'll try for me tomorrow. But given I'm town, I've got to try to get you to see reason because if you mislynch me today without any other scum candidate in mind, we're toast.

[implosion]

I think the play here is lynch Transcend, if he flips town then A50 jailkeeps shannon. I think I misspoke earlier, right? shannon is the only one motion-cleared, and zach and kraska are jailkeep-cleared.

This is still really obviously the plan :X

like, no-lynching is stupid. If scum no-kill then we gain no information, so we're essentially just giving scum the choice of if they want to kill or not. Lynching shannon I suppose technically works as well as lynching Transcend from a numbers standpoint but I'm pretty sure Transcend is scum between them at this point.

[kraska77]

VOTE: shannon

[kraska77]

S H E E P M E

[implosion]

no :/

why would scum have a ninja to deal with a single weak power role

[kraska77]

i have no idea what a ninja even is lmao im just pretending to have a clue about roles(i take it it's a role that bypasses motion detector? how about rb then?)
im just not sold on scumtranscend and that leaves shannon

[kraska77]

also i sheeped you on agar, you should sheep me on shannon >:(

[kraska77]

oh wait theres a jk
mafia rb + mafia jk dont make sense together right?

[kraska77]

transcend
zach
say somethinggg

[implosion]

Roleblocker wouldn't work, kraska - roleblocked power roles receive "no result", not a result like "no motion."

Ninja is a passive role that bypasses things like motion detectors, trackers and watchers. It wouldn't make sense to put in a ninja to balance out a single very weak town power role, since it wouldn't interact with anything else.

[Zachstralkita]

Varsoon

,

Town Nurse (previously Town Backup Nurse)

, was killed Night 6.

Now it is Day 7.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-08-12 09:52:31).

Am I the only one who thought something was suspicious about this

[Transcend]

I thought vars dying over implosion was weird.

But then i realized: that the scum team would have a mafia commuter, a mafia jailkeeper, and a mafia doctor (formerly a nurse). I just... i don't see it. 3 protective mafia roles and 1 weak investigative role? Nah nah nah.

Now town having 4 protective roles? I really, really, don't think so. The block on dunn could've been airick's doing or they didn't even block dunn, since he hit the same person mafia hit.

What reason did he have to out as jailkeeper that early anyways? I genuinely think that all blues and implosion are town and we need to lynch this slot.

[Transcend]

A lil protip: just because someone claims jailkeeper doesn't mean they are a scum jailkeeper if scum. Just food for thought.

[Zachstralkita]

Why would A50 as scum help us narrow it down to him

If you maintain that he is scum why do you trust what he says?

[Transcend]

Anyways information we know.

Kraska is NOT solo scum.
Zach is NOT solo scum.
Shannon is NOT solo scum.
If implosion is solo scum then this game is rigged.
Now fmpov the only solo scum can be A50.

Kraska and Shannon are also confirmed not on a team.
Zach and Shannon is possible, but both are obv town.
Zach and kraska is possible, but both are obv town.
Zach and a50 is possible, but Zach is obv town.
Shannon and a50 is possible, but shannon is obv town.
I can be scum with any of them, but I'm town.

With this said i can't even find one pairing that makes sense. With that said i think it's a solo scum and ACTUALLY if i get lynched then it will CONFIRM a50 as solo scum if the game doesn't end (and vice versa if he's town).

Another thing we can do is nl and have him jk me since my reports are next to useless anyways. I doubt scum has jk and rb.

If we nl can everyone please ask the host to speed the night up? Nling is safe because mafia vig is not allowed in normal games.

[Transcend]

I want all 6 players to agree to this. Nling so that we can test jailkeeper and asking gif to speed the night up.

Yes
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Transcend

No
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Undecided
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Almost50
implosion
kraska77
shannon
Zachstralkita

[Zachstralkita]

I'm down with that

[Zachstralkita]

You're using the wrong format, Transcend.

Willing to Lynch Titus/Dunnstral Day 2?

(If you're playing please answer with 'Yes' or 'No.')

AGar

~ Yes/No

Airick10

~ Yes/No

Almost50

~ Yes/No

Beeboy

~ Yes/No

Boem_u_dusi

~ Yes/

No

Dunnstral

~ Yes/No

implosion

~ Yes/No

Mirhawk

~ Yes/No

PeregrineV

~ Yes/No

Performer

~ Yes/No

podoboq

~

Yes

/No

shannon

~ Yes/No

Titus

~ Yes/No

Transcend

~ Yes/No

Varsoon

~ Yes/No

Vedith

~ Yes/No

Zachstralkita

~ Yes/No