Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[The Engineer]

Too scummy to be scum sort.

Naaaahh

[serrapaladin]

DP is still my top scum read, but I'm having 2nd thoughts about their alignment.
Too scummy to be scum sort.

Why do you think DP is scum, let alone too scummy to be scum? This feels a bit like hedging for a DP-town flip.

[Genji]

VOTE COUNT

DoctorPepper

(5) - Turret, the engineer, randommidget, Genji, Tracer

Vedith

(2) - wake88, foxbird

randommidget

(1) - podoboq

peter elric pines

(1) - shadow_step

Serrapaladin

(1) - vedith

The Engineer

(1) - doctorpepper

Not voting: peter elric pines, serrapaladin

with 12 players it takes 7 to lynch.

prodding peter elric pines.

Two more votes on DoctorPepper.
I really don't believe that DoctorPepper is making any efforts to game solve and he needs to be out of this game before a LYLO/MYLO situation if he is town.

I don't believe he is town though.

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: Serrapaladin
VOTE: DrPepper

The fact that this is the towniest wagon going.

L1 and all that Jazz.

[Shadow_step]

Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

@Serrapaladin-why DP is scum ^^

DP's reaction to their wagon which has formed twice in 2 days now was a horrible omgus vote.
I don't expect scum to be this horrible...

[serrapaladin]

Yeah, I suppose.

I think the level of activity is NAI, but it's true that what he did comment on wasn't great. A fair amount of OMGUS and discussion of the NK. Particularly, discrediting DGB as having given no info, when he was her biggest scumread, doesn't look great.

I could still see minimally engaged town only commenting on stuff relevant to them, but am pretty happy with that lynch.

@shadow: do you have any indication whether your hated modifier is permanent?

[Wake1]

Has he claimed?

[serrapaladin]

DP? Don't think so.

[Vedith]

Who cares.
Lynch Serra's buddy today then him tomorrow.

[serrapaladin]

<- not scum

[Shadow_step]

Yeah, I suppose.

I think the level of activity is NAI, but it's true that what he did comment on wasn't great. A fair amount of OMGUS and discussion of the NK. Particularly, discrediting DGB as having given no info, when he was her biggest scumread, doesn't look great.

I could still see minimally engaged town only commenting on stuff relevant to them, but am pretty happy with that lynch.

@shadow: do you have any indication whether your hated modifier is permanent?

It doesn't say anything about being conditional, so I'm guessing it is perma.

I hope it doesn't apply in lylo

[serrapaladin]

Hmm, yeah. If that's the case, that's pretty much a PL the day before lylo.

I really want DP to explain the voting thing I asked him about. No one hammer him yet, please.

[The Engineer]

<- not scum

Words like this really don't help

[DoctorPepper]

RUSH B CYKA BLYAT.

Hi I'm Zarya. This was my crumb, i spoke in Russian. I am a 1 shot Jailkeeper (shot hasnt been used btw) and a omnic double voter. Which is why I keep switching votes as I was hunting for omnics.

My wagon is really bad because im such an easy target. Face it, my lynch gives very little info. I am low hanging fruit. I am a very easy target for saying "scummy things" despite people already washing their hands off my lynch.

Im inactive as I dont play Mini games and the only reason i joined is because I like the theme. Its also worth noting I play more invested as scum than town but take that as you wish. But if you want to lynch me, consider lynching this first

VOTE: Genji

Understand that while I havent been the towniest player, Genji is already trying to wash his hands off my lynch, along with Shadow. I think Genji is scum. He's already preparing for my town flip.

[DoctorPepper]

Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

@Serrapaladin-why DP is scum ^^

DP's reaction to their wagon which has formed twice in 2 days now was a horrible omgus vote.
I don't expect scum to be this horrible...

Also OMGUS is not a scum tell. Hell, the reasons for people voting me are bad, of course Im going to think they are scum.

[vonflare]

peter leric pines is being replaced

[serrapaladin]

Why genji more than shadow? I can sort of understand the reasoning of not wanting you around at LyLo, but shadow's "too scummy to be scum" is weird.

[serrapaladin]

also, now that you're here, wanna claim your abilities?

[podoboq]

also, now that you're here, wanna claim your abilities?

I am a 1 shot Jailkeeper (shot hasnt been used btw) and a omnic double voter.

This is very interesting. While I don't think that role is necessarily town aligned, I read his full claim as pretty townie.

DrPep, did you read my accusation of randommidget?

VOTE: randommidget

His wagon on DoctorPepper seems bad to me. His argument for starting it is "If this flips scum then there was scum on the Tracer counterwagon." But do you have an actual reason to scumread DoctorPepper, or are just assuming that Tracer is a counterwagon, despite her insistence that she's lynched for mechanical reasons? It feels like his reason to wagon DoctorPepper is to lynch him, and gain information about the Tracer wagon, but that seems like a piss poor train of thought.

Do you have a differing opinion on this slot?

[serrapaladin]

I wanted ability names.

My abilities make more sense with my attack names than these do with Zayra.

This does tell us that the omnics aren't necessarily scum though.

[Tracer]

This question has nothing to do with my read on you and I want to be amused. More of a theory question, I guess.

My wagon is really bad because im such an easy target. Face it, my lynch gives very little info. I am low hanging fruit. I am a very easy target for saying "scummy things" despite people already washing their hands off my lynch.

What exactly about being a low hanging fruit/easy target prevent a player from being scum?
Can scum not be a low hanging fruit?

UNVOTE: for now.

[Tracer]

I don't expect scum to be this horrible...

Does this mean you're townreading DP now?

[DoctorPepper]

Why genji more than shadow? I can sort of understand the reasoning of not wanting you around at LyLo, but shadow's "too scummy to be scum" is weird.

They are both weird. I've already voted shadow and concluded he isnt an omnic, so I'm trying to find out who is. I agree that too scummy to be scum is bad, especiallt since his basis is OMGUS. But Genji's "not wanting me to be around during lylo" is bad because
1. It's Completely discrediting me. I'm actually decent when I give a crap and you know that.
2. Maybe I'm right about someone being scum and he doesnt like that?

[DoctorPepper]

also, now that you're here, wanna claim your abilities?

I am a 1 shot Jailkeeper (shot hasnt been used btw) and a omnic double voter.

This is very interesting. While I don't think that role is necessarily town aligned, I read his full claim as pretty townie.

DrPep, did you read my accusation of randommidget?

VOTE: randommidget

His wagon on DoctorPepper seems bad to me. His argument for starting it is "If this flips scum then there was scum on the Tracer counterwagon." But do you have an actual reason to scumread DoctorPepper, or are just assuming that Tracer is a counterwagon, despite her insistence that she's lynched for mechanical reasons? It feels like his reason to wagon DoctorPepper is to lynch him, and gain information about the Tracer wagon, but that seems like a piss poor train of thought.

Do you have a differing opinion on this slot?

Nope, randommidget is scummy to me as well.

[DoctorPepper]

This question has nothing to do with my read on you and I want to be amused. More of a theory question, I guess.

My wagon is really bad because im such an easy target. Face it, my lynch gives very little info. I am low hanging fruit. I am a very easy target for saying "scummy things" despite people already washing their hands off my lynch.

What exactly about being a low hanging fruit/easy target prevent a player from being scum?
Can scum not be a low hanging fruit?

UNVOTE: for now.

They can, but I'm only "scummy" because
1. Inactive
2. OMGUS
3. Reads they dont agree with

Not a very strong case, no info. Thus, low hanging fruit.