Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

[Luna Fox]

Also that is L-1

[pirate mollie]

Replace Kraska with Skybird and Skybird with Kraska and that is where I am at right now.

can you walk me through your scum read on Skybird again?

I've seen your posts etc., I just want to make sure I'm not missing any of it for completeness's sake.

It was really just her horrible reason for scum reading her counter wagon and not actually voting it that makes me think she is scum. Like Kraska has plenty of content to create a non terrible read.

she did vote it?

[beegirl]

she did vote it?

Not for 2 pages.

[Nahdia]

I'd strongly prefer a Skybird lynch, but I don't hate either vote.

why

Skybird is scummier than kraska.

[pirate mollie]

I'd strongly prefer a Skybird lynch, but I don't hate either vote.

why

Skybird is scummier than kraska.

I am not sure about that. what else do ya got

[Skybird]

I tend to be caution with my vote in smaller games. We've barely played 2 RL days here.

Nahdia, why am I more scummy?

[pieguyn]

I'm responding to beegirl, but one thing first: I'm taking any hammer as a scum claim given Foxbird's vote was all the way back from fucking _RVS_.

also, if Skybird flips town and kraska is scum, I would be very concerned with Luna.

[Nahdia]

because i said so.

[beegirl]

I feel as though there is some serious mind reading going on right now because i don't have any idea where over half of the players are at right now. >_>

[beegirl]

I'm responding to beegirl

^__^ I look forward to this.

[pieguyn]

It was really just her horrible reason for scum reading her counter wagon and not actually voting it that makes me think she is scum. Like Kraska has plenty of content to create a non terrible read.

my major issue is, I *really* don't think Skybird's read is as horrible as a lot of people are claiming it is. the major point she was making was that kraska's posts along the lines of e.g. 149 read like she was trying to use her posting a lot as a reason to throw doubt on mollie's read on her. I think it's not a compelling point, yes, but it isn't "horrible" in terms of her thought process. I can easily read this post and see someone thinking that the mention of her activity was off and out of nowhere and hoping to attribute a reason to it, since it kind of is, and "I've posted a lot" is, in fact, an excuse scum like to pull up in order to cast doubt on reads on them.

do I think it's what kraska was doing in that post? not really. but I don't think it's unreasonable at all for someone to interpret it that way and I don't know why so many people think it's so horrible.

I don't take issue with her building up to it with the way that she did, and I don't really take issue with the fact that she didn't vote it immediately, either. I could just as easily see it coming from town who has trouble getting up to speed in games early, or town who is just strict with their votes/wants to probe around a bit first before making an explicit vote.

can you walk me through where I'm going wrong here?

[pieguyn]

also, re: the last paragraph, Skybird's recent posts seem to confirm that at the least she is that kind of player.

[TellTaleHeart]

My take on you is that you seem to feel you are above all of us. You are the one that said you weren't interested in ordinary people iirc. So if you did say you aren't interested in ordinary people, could you explain why?

That was actually LLD that said that.
Is that really how I come off?

[beegirl]

Pie why reach out to me in particular out of the people voting Skybird here?

[pieguyn]

Pie why reach out to me in particular out of the people voting Skybird here?

you and Luna are the people I imagined I'd be able to work with the easiest.

[TellTaleHeart]

As you've asked me my take of the game so far, I'd say it's pretty eh. You've got people claiming which always seems weird to me. For example, people are townreading Yume for claiming ascetic. I think if I were scum I'd claim ascetic since it is considered "correct" play and would be a great way to keep people from targeting me for the first few days. Yume also got pretty defensive when people questioned her on it.

You think Yume is completely making the ascetic up...? o.O
What exactly are you seeing as scummy about the "defensiveness"?

[beegirl]

Pie why reach out to me in particular out of the people voting Skybird here?

you and Luna are the people I imagined I'd be able to work with the easiest.

I think I should be obvious town right now and I feel as though your read on Luna is in more of a grey zone which is why I am surprised you are engaging me and not her. I will respond to you in a bit.

[pieguyn]

I feel as though your read on Luna is in more of a grey zone which is why I am surprised you are engaging me and not her.

I did try to reach out to both of you, just her response was to basically dismiss me entirely, and I don't see it being productive to focus on that right now. I'm not really in sorting mode when it comes to this, I'm in "dismantle the fuck out of this wagon everything else be damned" mode.

[TellTaleHeart]

I'm not really in sorting mode when it comes to this, I'm in "dismantle the fuck out of this wagon everything else be damned" mode.

Why?

[beegirl]

Sorry Pie I am going to leave you hanging for a bit I want to know why Luna thinks Skybird is scum all I know is why she is town reading Kraska.

[Skybird]

because i said so.

That's a bunch of bullshit. If you can't articulate a scum read, your read is pretty bad.

[pieguyn]

Why?

I think kraska is scum and I take issue with the way both kraska and Luna are approaching the Skybird read.

I don't really want to get into a debate with Luna right at this second, though; I would prefer to wait and see what happens for a bit and then engage her over it if it's still relevant.

[Luna Fox]

I want to know why Luna thinks Skybird is scum all I know is why she is town reading Kraska.

Ok let me put it for you in simple terms
Im townreading Kraska
Kraska's wagon increases when the wagon on Skybird is stagnating.
My conclusion: Kraska is a CW to scum.

[beegirl]

So you have reason to believe Mollie is scum?
You are town reading the rest of the wagon outside LLD who didn't really do much countering.

[Luna Fox]

So you have reason to believe Mollie is scum?
You are town reading the rest of the wagon outside LLD who didn't really do much countering.

Hmm, actually i hadn't thought of that ^_^;;