Doctor Who Mafia 2- GAME OVER!

[cicero]

Why did you guys ignore this?

I AM SCUM LYNCH ME PLEASE I CANT PLAY ANYMORE HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY 1 =)

Thanls for that. I missed this post entirely. I meta'd him just now. He's a lying little dick. He claimed cop when he was a townie in his newbie game. He hates that the games here take so long. I wouldn't trust anything he said because I think he hates the site and is a childish brat. BM can modkill him or replace him as he deems appropriate.

Town can vote him for an easy scum kill but don't be surprised if he turns out to not be scum. He acted like a shit in his newbie game.

[TaffMaster]

Jammys not a bad player on SA, I think you guys just fustrate a lot of us guys because we have different styles of playing and tells, hence me blowing up earlier.

I wont be asking to be replaced.

[cicero]

Jammys not a bad player on SA, I think you guys just fustrate a lot of us guys because we have different styles of playing and tells, hence me blowing up earlier.

I wont be asking to be replaced.

Being frustrated by the customs of a foreign land and responding by acting like asshats. You know that is the stereotype of Americans all over the world, right? Tell your friends: Way to keep that going!!

Anyway - if you can meta him Taffmaster - what would YOU do with the information you just presented? Lynch him, ignore him, get him replaced, have him modkilled?

[TaffMaster]

Not all of us are Americans.

Modkill.

[TaffMaster]

Because :

1) is a easy lynch that we get no info from apart from perhaps l
2) ignoring him just creates confusion
3) replaced just means his replacement is in a shit situation
4) makes most sense

4 is most logical, 1 is the alternative.

[TaffMaster]

oops didnt finish 1

1) is a easy lynch we get no info from apart from perhaps that you and Shanba initially ignored his post

[mcpaltp]

To be honest, I missed it too. Often the most obvious things are overlooked.

[Yosarian2]

I missed your request for friends:

Recurring

Rose Tyler & family
Martha Jones & family
Captain Jack Harkness
Face of Boe
Mickey Smith
Donna

Now, Oman was revealed as Mrs. Moore, a fairly minor character (we are talking a 2 episode arc). That really expands the possibilities well beyond what I can list here.

Now, I haven't watched hardly any of the new Dr Who, so I don't know most of those characters, but I think I've watched most all of the old shows, and I've got to say the list for possible friends of the Doctor is quite vast, and since the central theme of the show is time traveling, I wouldn't be surprised to see any number of people from past doctors come back and show up here. I'm not going to go into any details, because that dosn't seem helpful, but let's just say that the list of probable claims is quite deep.

Also, just one more flavor comment for those who have not watched the show; if somone claims to be the Doctor, it's not necessarally a good idea to counterclaim; I remember several classic epesodes where due to time-traveling stuff there were several different version of the Doctor, and it wouldn't surprise me if there are multiple Dr. Who's in this game. (For example, there was one epesode I remember called "The Three Doctors", I'm pretty sure that's not the only time that happened either)

[mcpaltp]

Consider the identity of the first to die. She was not a major mover. It is probable that we are only dealing with the most recent chronicles.

But,

Surprises do exist.

[TaffMaster]

All three killed night 0 were people from the more recent serieses.

[Yosarian2]

All three killed night 0 were people from the more recent serieses.

Well, daalaks and cybermen were in the old series as well. (shrug) Unless...are those role-names specific Daalak or Cyberman characters in the new series?

Anyway, this isn't necessaray something we need to resolve today.

[Battle Mage]

This game will remain locked until a situation involving several players has been resolved. Please stay posted.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but this is a necessary measure.

BM

[Battle Mage]

ok, i'm sorry about the delay. This incident required extensive discussion amongst my moderating team, Mith and I.
To cut a long story short, a player is guilty of intentional breaking some of the most imporant rules on site, and it was thought that his actions could lead to the abandonment of the game.

As it is, i have sought advice from numerous sources, and spoke to witnesses etc, and we are 99% sure that the culprit was

Jamuraan

. As such, he will be appropriately punished for his heinous crimes.

Jamuraan (Dalek Thay) - Mafia Goon has been Modkilled

.

Xythar

will also be replaced due to him irrevocably being tied up in the situation-through no fault of his own.

The game will now continue, still in Day 1, with time lost due to the Pause, being restored to the town.

I thank you all for your patience, and concern showed throughout these past few days. Now, let's forget about the newbs of the past, and get on playing the game with people who WANT to participate.

BM

[Battle Mage]

DrippingGoofBall replaces Xythar

Vote Count

Taffmaster 6 (CDB, Erg0, Chronx, Vollkan, Vollkan, Tarhalindur)
Roach 2 (Shanba, Garnasha)
Tarhalindur 2 (DrippingGoofBall, Mcpaltp)
Chronx 2 (Cicero, Yosarian2)
Flameaxe 2 (Roach, Yamahako)
Shanba 1 (Kison)
MoS 1 (Flameaxe)
Mcpaltp 1 (ABR)
ABR 1 (Caps)

Not Voting: Sir Tornado, Theninthlayer, Lemming1607, Longname, Axelrod, Taffmaster, Shteven, Pokerface

26 alive and 26 present, means that 14 votes is enough to decide a lynch.

I'll send out a prod to everyone tomorrow morning.

BM

[Erg0]

At this rate we'll never need to lynch anyone...

So yeah, I'm still voting for Taffmaster.

[Flameaxe]

Hi.

[DrippingGoofball]

I know what to do. It's the will of the people.

unvote, vote: Taffmaster

[Shanba]

so that's win. Did Jamuraan leave much record? I shoulda used the time to reread, but eh. I'm a lazy bastard

[cicero]

A trip over to Somethingawful (specifically their mafia discussion thread starting on...oh say page 154) suggests that a number of them have contempt for this board - primarily it's slow pace - and looked forward to screwing with the games here. I know it isn't all of them by any means - but I highly doubt that we've seen the last bit of trouble from the field trip. In this or other games.

[DrippingGoofball]

He railed about Aisar, and some lame comment about my predecessor Xythar, that's about it.

Aisar was railing against Taffmaster, Theo, claimed to be scum with Taff and ABR, then voted for me, claimed to be scum with Theopor_COD, Cicero, Xythar, Yosarian2, Tarhalindur and WomensRights...

I've only read half the game but it's hard not to vote for Aisar/Roach or er... Xythar aka myself.

[Erg0]

So why'd you vote for Taffmaster? Not that I'm complaining, you understand.

[PokerFace]

Hello all. Did not post after I got back from work because thread got locked. I am yet to read everything so I will refrain from voting at this time for that specific reason. I have only read through pages 1-9. Below are the notes I have taken from thos pages and some of my own opinions on what was expressed in those posts.


Volkan has 2 votes for some reason and MOS has none
Post 12 Niv Self Voted - Usually a scummy action
Post 14 Taffmaster makes good night tell - Usually a scummy action
Post 17 I agree with Tar's statement.
Post 23 ABR aproves of wagon on Taff but for some reason does not vote? For some reason he held off.
Post 28 Cicero asks people not to attack the wagon and wants on too - Way he words it here is scummy.
Post 35, 38 Aisar (Now Roach) begins to suggest we use our own ideas and methods to hunt scum and not rely on wiki. This is what I think she was trying to get across but her words and way of saying it were a bit off.

In my personal opinion you have to use your best judgement to see if the theory applies to the situation. I think the theory Tar expressed did apply to the situation and I disagree with her in this situation. After all Taff would not be instantly lynch for this. One scum tell does not gaurantee a lynching.

Post 46 ABR should say why that was scummy.
Post 68 Aisar makes jokes about some people being scum buddies, in my book this is biggest scum tell so far
Post 70 Aisar states unimportant drivel about someone who has not even posted yet. Why did she even waste the time to post that?
Post 73 Taff does that too. More worthlessness
they continue this discussion of a player yet to post til post 76
Post 85 Cicero uses better words to describe his point. I can't entirely recall how Aisar came down on him but Cicero uses better words that make me willing to forgive his earlier scummy words for he better clarifies himself
Post 87 I agree with Tar's coment.

In my expierence nameing others as scum buddies can be further determental to the town. I consider it a way of saying "I'm going down and taking these people with me". Sometimes this action can be used to force supicion elsewhere without actually finding true scum.If I was here back then you bet I would have voted for aisar here

Post 88 A perfect example of OMGUS. Even though Aisar did not get emotional. I did not read mini 431 or 458 but Tar did not exactly say we should lynch on princple. Maybe if Tar used those exact words I could agree but since he did not this was omgus.

Post 100 Aisar again makes same tell from 68 And states she is leaving
Post 109 What shteven said could be seen as a defence of others or a mere disagreement. Personally I think shteven is just trying to make a call for sanity with all the site bashing and worthless junk.
Post 116 I agree with Shteven's opinion on aisar's scummyness
Post 128 Flame axe says it is pretty obvious Not sure if he is refering to MoS or aisar. If he was refering to Aisar he should have changed his vote.
Post 131 (pardon my bad pun) Axe adds flame to the fire of the situation while not really contributing to hunting who he percieves as scum.
Post 134 part of me wonders if this is some kinda of distancing, but I think not. If Jam is from SA it is at least obvious he does not want to be considered in same light as the others from SA.
Post 139 by Volkian I agree with his view on aisar and taff
Post 141, I disagree speed is not the most important thing about a wagon. Considering the activity of this game, speed in general is a null factor. What's important of any early wagon is it provides catalyst that allows town to hunt for scum amongst the coments for and against the wagon. Why or why not person A is jumping on and why is important. It allows us to discover and hunt for true reasons and alignment of those casting or not casting votes.
Post 143 I agree with Cronx yet for some reason he is not voting for aisar.
Post 148 post 149 Aisar defends coments that were directed at taff.
Post 150 probably the only good post that places a case on Tar. I am not saying I agree and would vote tar though. I just don't find the way Xythar places his case as scummy.
Post 168 I agree with everything but the last part "but ya'll keep going at it if you feel like it." Don't keep going at it!

CAN WE STOP ALL SITE METHOD DISAGREEMENTS AND FOCUS ON FINDING SCUM. Some of us are SA some of us are MS. It does not matter! As long as scum is found it does not matter how or which method works best, what matter is the result! That they are found and lynched!

Post 175 Why is MoS Scum? Where is the why?

Finally good non-worthless posts appear!
Post 179 By Axelrod
Fact is, is really is kind of a scum tell. Certain people completely dismissing it because it's listed in the Wiki are rather missing the point. No one said: "it says so in the Wiki, therefore I vote." Also, I would say Taffmaster responded poorly to the whole thing.

QFT!!

Post 185 I find nothing wrong with Volkan's view on this matter. I would have to agree.
Post 189 I agree with Ergo's statement.
post 197 by Tar

SA posters: There is a clear train of reasoning that leads to the conclusion that anyone who claims that another player is his scumbuddy needs to be lynched. Simply put, there is never a good reason for a pro-town player should claim that another player is his scumbuddy (since there's no basis for the claim and it distracts from finding the real scum). Scum, by way of contrast, can have perfectly good reasons to claim that another player is their scumbuddy (it introduces all kinds of WIFOM considerations).

QFT!

Notes done. Those currently on scumdar are Taffmaster, Aisar/Roach


Ok that is what I felt was important among pages 1-9. One of the high points of graduating from college was knowing I would not have to read too much ever again. This game is proving that wrong. I will read more and post again as soon as I can. I will not vote til I am caught up for I feel if I voted at this point that would be an injustice.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why did you guys ignore this?

I AM SCUM LYNCH ME PLEASE I CANT PLAY ANYMORE HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY 1 =)

Thanls for that. I missed this post entirely. I meta'd him just now. He's a lying little dick. He claimed cop when he was a townie in his newbie game. He hates that the games here take so long. I wouldn't trust anything he said because I think he hates the site and is a childish brat. BM can modkill him or replace him as he deems appropriate.

Town can vote him for an easy scum kill but don't be surprised if he turns out to not be scum. He acted like a shit in his newbie game.

Ya know... that post bugs me. Damage control much?

[TaffMaster]

A trip over to Somethingawful (specifically their mafia discussion thread starting on...oh say page 154) suggests that a number of them have contempt for this board - primarily it's slow pace - and looked forward to screwing with the games here. I know it isn't all of them by any means - but I highly doubt that we've seen the last bit of trouble from the field trip. In this or other games.

Dont blame all of us. Im sure you have bad eggs here too.

Anyway, Im resigned to my fate that I'll die tonight, since its been pushed hard for and it seems no one wants to look at alternatives. I will state now that I'm most suspicious of Cicero and ChronX. Please dont kill me before I get a chance to full role claim.

[TaffMaster]

In fact, never mind, to spark discussion at least heres the post where I breadcrumbed my role name

Everyone seems to have quietened down now, thank god. Last few days have been a bit manic. This games been 20 pages of mainly silly back and forths, and I include myself in that. Only problem now is getting those people who have stood in the background and listened to state an opinion. Now people, SPEAK.

.................

Perhaps they'll speak up soon. Opinions matter. People withoout opinions are people who we dont need. Every opinion counts, even Xythars!

I'll post my full role info tomorrow. If you guys still want to kill me then I wont object.