Open 651: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[light_ganski]

Yep . I suugested when I came on that we recruit the traitor as well but we decided only to have daytalk to limit the number of town PRs.

[lilith2013]

Votecount 1.001

Raskolnikov is on VLA.

Let's make this bigger so everyone can see it:

shaddowez is confirmed as town.

superbowl9 [1]

light_ganski

kyndy101 [1]

Vedith

Vedith [2]

Sir Bastion, kyndy101

shaddowez [1]

shaddowez

Hebee Inc [1]

Raskolnikov

Lycanfire [1]

SoraAdvent

light_ganski [1]

superbowl9

SoraAdvent [1]

NJAC

Not Voting [3]

Lycanfire, Hebee Inc, HighHopes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2016-08-22 01:30:00)

pagetop count: light_ganski 1 | shaddowez 1 | kyndy101 1

[kyndy101]

What do you mean, Lilith?

[Vedith]

Lilith confirmed scum

[kyndy101]

lol
I gotta say, I love this mod. Keeping it real

[Sir Bastion]

Ok lets see...

@Shadowez just because you are now the only reliable honest person in this town does not mean you should start acting the village idiot. Shape up man. You are the only person here who can push people without any consequences. Less self voting and more *slap slap look me in the eye son and tell me how much you love this town*

@NJAC, the vote on shadowez reads automatic reaction to me, like someone who's played SE/IC in one too many newbie games and has had to deal with someone doing that once too often thinking their funny or clever.

I'm actually more uncomfortable with the pre-reroll choices talk, but I wasnt there for any of that so its probably simply the unknown that has me unsettled. As Vedith points out it is useless info with the potential "depending how the game goes" of polluting how people might think later in the game of certain players or scenarios.

I'm fine with Vedith postings and superbowl9 (though I agree that daytalk is a strong power so side with superbowl9 on that)

The only posts I didnt like were Kyndy101's posts here

Why did you feel the need to answer for NJAC?

so UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: Kyndy101

I also dislike the follow up excuse to drop an RVS vote

obviously rerolls are random, they are not likely or more likely to contain anything different to the previous roll

but more importantly why did you feel the need to justify dropping an RVS vote at all?

[Sir Bastion]

Oh and before I forget I obviously see we have a lot of people of different timezones (including some other UK based posters like myself)

Could we get a timezone and general posting time confirmation from everyone

the deadline is 6am (roughly) for me so I dont want people hoping for me to come in and deliver a hammer at the 11th hour cause I can guarantee you at 6am I'll be alseep (at least until 1st of september, and then I'll be too cranky on the tube to save the day). And I'd bet it wont be just me. It would be best if everybody gives their general posting periods (doesn't need to be accurate, just so we know there is a point where you cannot be relied on to show up).

I'm UK based but for the time being my posting time will more likely be around now or in the early afternoon (so 12 hours ago) so just use the timestamp of this post to get an idea what that is in your own timezone.

[superbowl9]

I'm usually EST but I'm in California rn (PST for those without google).

[kyndy101]

I'm Mountain Time

The only posts I didnt like were Kyndy101's posts here

Why did you feel the need to answer for NJAC?

so UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: Kyndy101

I also dislike the follow up excuse to drop an RVS vote

obviously rerolls are random, they are not likely or more likely to contain anything different to the previous roll

but more importantly why did you feel the need to justify dropping an RVS vote at all?

Honestly, I would normally reply to this post with "it's a little too early in the game to be having reads" but then again, I definitely have a read on Vedith. If anyone wants to know that doesn't see Vedith being scummy, I'll make a solid case perhaps tomorrow morning.
I don't see why my answering for NJAC was important? I usually try to step in whenever I see misunderstandings pop up, or at least offer my opinion when nobody asked, so that we're all finding out what page everyone is on. I didn't see it as answering for NJAC, more so my answering the question to see where everyone was at. I guess I could have waited for NJAC to respond too, I suppose, and then put in my response.
As for the "excuse" to drop an RVS vote, firstly, I feel like no matter what kind of vote it is, there should be a justification for everything done with said vote- changing it, adding a vote, or unvoting. Also, it wasn't an excuse, more so a reason / justification, as previously stated. I don't like your reasoning on voting me, that said.
I know that rerolls are random, but I find it highly unlikely that the same people got the same roles, or that even one of the two got the same roll.

[superbowl9]

I know that rerolls are random, but I find it highly unlikely that the same people got the same roles, or that even one of the two got the same roll.

Gambler's fallacy. If you roll a 6 on a die, is it any less probable that you'll roll a 6 again the next time?
I think what Bastion was talking about was the fact that you used non-rvs reasoning to justify taking off an rvs vote. "I randomly voted for this person, but on second thought they're probly not scum" That second part kinda implies you thought I was scum in the first place, even tho your vote was RVS.
Not that I agree with Bastion's read though.

[kyndy101]

I know that rerolls are random, but I find it highly unlikely that the same people got the same roles, or that even one of the two got the same roll.

Gambler's fallacy. If you roll a 6 on a die, is it any less probable that you'll roll a 6 again the next time?
I think what Bastion was talking about was the fact that you used non-rvs reasoning to justify taking off an rvs vote. "I randomly voted for this person, but on second thought they're probly not scum" That second part kinda implies you thought I was scum in the first place, even tho your vote was RVS.
Not that I agree with Bastion's read though.

Oh, fair point.. But if a random number out of one hundred was chosen, then what are the odds of that random number being chosen again? 1/100. But yeah, I see what you mean.
Well, I don't see it to mean that I thought you were scum in the first place, I take it as process of elimination. Sorry if it did sound that way to you and others..

[Lycanfire]

@njac we decided to only use daytalk cause didn't want to load town with prs and play the night action guessing game (daytalk is just rly good tho).

Ignore my last comment, this is pretty interesting.
How is day talk any where near as good as recruiting the traitor?

Recruiting is the most powerful upgrade for the scum. I've never been in a game or hosted 1 where scum haven't taken traitor.

Open 501 featured no powers chosen but scum were mistakenly told the identity of the traitor.. I think the town was given a vig in compensation... Who proceeded to shoot town every night.

VOTE: Vedith interested in seeing if you'll replace out of this game

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith interested in seeing if you'll replace out of this game

You realise discussing on going games is not allowed, right?

[Lycanfire]

Kind of have to talk about this game in order to play it

[Vedith]

Kind of have to talk about this game in order to play it

You know exactly what I mean.
Just try and play by site rules, alright, kiddo?

[Lycanfire]

Please stop getting so defensive, Vedith! Two votes and you're death flailing already!

[Lycanfire]

He's got a weapon!

Daykill: Vedith

[light_ganski]

@Sir Bastion - I'm UK time as well usually, but European time (+2) for the next week

The only posts I didnt like were Kyndy101's posts here

I don't see the problem here?

I'm actually scum reading Vedith as well

[Vedith]

Please stop getting so defensive, Vedith! Two votes and you're death flailing already!

It's actually 3, however, your vote isn't what concerned me.
And neither does your fake day vig.

[Lycanfire]

Please stop getting so defensive, Vedith! Two votes and you're death flailing already!

It's actually 3, however, your vote isn't what concerned me.
And neither does your fake day vig.

Townpost. Townies don't know how to count.

VOTE: superbowl9

far too good with numbers to be town.

[Vedith]

It's actually 3

Oh it is 2, apparantly something happened in the game.

[light_ganski]

VOTE: Vedith

Back to 3 eh?

[Vedith]

so UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: Kyndy101

I also dislike the follow up excuse to drop an RVS vote

obviously rerolls are random, they are not likely or more likely to contain anything different to the previous roll

As scum, why would she want to give town less options to focus on, and more of a chance to focus her?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith

Back to 3 eh?

Spooky!

[Lycanfire]

VOTE: Vedith

Back to 3 eh?

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