Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

[Yume]

Then why even want him to claim? You're hoping that it somehow saves him?

[Yume]

And considering that you implied that you won't let me claim when I am at L-1 or prove my role during the night (judging by your response to posts where I proposed doing so) it looks fishy to me.

[UpTooLate]

Then why even want him to claim? You're hoping that it somehow saves him?

Claims, fake or not, can be informative. JFC. You are not this stupid. You can't be.

And considering that you implied that you won't let me claim when I am at L-1 or prove my role during the night (judging by your response to posts where I proposed doing so) it looks fishy to me.

I NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT EVER. FOR FUCKS SAKE. YOU WERE NEVER EVEN CLOSE TO L-1, AND I'M PRETTY SURE WHEN YOU CAME IN ASKING TO CLAIM NO ONE WAS EVEN VOTING YOU.

Maybe you really are this fucking stupid.

[TellTaleHeart]

Hammering without a claim is just bad form.

[Yume]

Then why even want him to claim? You're hoping that it somehow saves him?

Claims, fake or not, can be informative. JFC. You are not this stupid. You can't be.

And considering that you implied that you won't let me claim when I am at L-1 or prove my role during the night (judging by your response to posts where I proposed doing so) it looks fishy to me.

I NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT EVER. FOR FUCKS SAKE. YOU WERE NEVER EVEN CLOSE TO L-1, AND I'M PRETTY SURE WHEN YOU CAME IN ASKING TO CLAIM NO ONE WAS EVEN VOTING YOU.

Maybe you really are this fucking stupid.

So you don't mind me hammering him when he claims?

To be honest though, I only want to hammer so you'd vote me the next day and then I can have the satisfaction of telling you to stfu in every future game we play once I flip town.

[Yume]

Hammering without a claim is just bad form.

Two words: Marathon games.

[UpTooLate]

You keep making up this narrative that you're for sure going to be who I vote tomorrow, like that's for sure going to happen. You aren't in my head so fucking stop it.

And don't worry, we won't be in any future games together.

[Yume]

You keep making up this narrative that you're for sure going to be who I vote tomorrow, like that's for sure going to happen. You aren't in my head so fucking stop it.

And don't worry, we won't be in any future games together.

It sure won't.

[TellTaleHeart]

Hammering without a claim is just bad form.

Two words: Marathon games.

This isn't a marathon game.

What are you saying?

[Yume]

I am saying that in each Marathon game I played, they hammered me or someone else without a claim.

[TellTaleHeart]

That doesn't make it any less terrible.

[pieguyn]

there is something that I want to iron out before the dayphase ends. if I don't get around to it this evening, slap me in the face.

[farside22]

Now this is bad ass!!!

Ari's (6) Ari's, luna, tth, beegir, utl
Layla (3) lady, pie, lld
Skybird (1) layla
Utl (1) yume

With 13 alive it will take 7 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2016-08-16 23:00:00)
Skybird on v/LA until 8/15

[Skybird]

I don't understand why you are playing like this Yume. It doesn't make sense as either alignment to me.

Is there anyone else you have reads on?

[Malakittens]

Yume is likely scum with Sri so

[Layla]

Hello. I'm back form work and am happy to see posts.


*reads posts*


*reads more posts*


*finished reading*

[beegirl]

@mod VLA for 1 week

Oh look Ari is still doing nothing and not eating rope.

[pirate mollie]

I think this is the gif you were looking for:

[pirate mollie]

I am willing to lynch ari atm but I am also patient.

[Luna Fox]

GIF and mollie made me laugh, thanks i needed that ^_^

[TellTaleHeart]

there is something that I want to iron out before the dayphase ends. if I don't get around to it this evening, slap me in the face.

[pieguyn]

Meanwhile my townread on pie is starting to rot.

what is this about?

Like i literally cant believe how you've been scumreading GIF's slot all game, and you continue to do so. I know i said i couldnt explain my kraska townread coz it was a bunch of feeling in her posts, but you need to realize that sometimes people dont play like you think they do, i mentioned this multiple times, you keep tunnel visioning, instead of actually seeing things from the other player's PoV.

this post.

I still don't know if I should even post this and if it comes across as harsh you should know I don't intend to add any toxicity to this game, I intend it as a reach-out, because I'm *really* confused by your approach to me and it's actually a large part of why I'm so depressed with this game (and mafia in general).

Luna, I would expect that of all of the people in this game, *you* should be familiar with my approach to games. if I hard push a read, it is not because "I'm discounting people playing in a different way from me" or because "I've assumed town won't ever do action X". it's because I *have* considered the fact that kraska might just be a really horrible player or that kraska might somehow play in the way she has been as town, and I've decided that it objectively just isn't likely. and, if you read my posts, I have been doing this, multiple times... as just one example, 294, which her response to was to start screaming I was making something out of nothing - despite the fact I think it's *really* fucking obvious what my issue with these posts actually are.

kraska being a bad player or not playing the same way I do has nothing to do with it. the key point here in that instance is that I think her posts look really forced, and are objectively not likely to come from her as town regardless of how she plays. the rest of my read is the same as this, and what I was expecting was that you might see me scum reading her, see me alluding to my reasoning for scum reading her, and either try to help me work out the read in similar vein to Cake-kun from FG's game (he was town there, but even after he flipped town you agreed with me that everything I pointed out about him made sense, so...) or at least make some attempt at engaging me over it or trying to understand where my scum read on her was coming from.

instead? you saw it and from the get go, you basically shrugged it off as "your read is coming from a place of you assuming town won't ever do X" as if you didn't even give a shit about it. and it isn't just limited to things having to do with kraska, it's everything... I've told you so so so many times that "genuine posting" isn't a good reason to town read someone and that it's really easy for scum to make "genuine" sounding posts. you've _seen_ this firsthand.

and the thing is, that's fine. I'd be OK with it if we just agreed to disagree, and I was content to not bug you over it any more. but now you're sitting here and saying that I'm _scum_ because I'm not just shutting up and agreeing with your read?

did I do something to you? I feel like I've done something horrible, or that you've just lost whatever respect you had for me or my play entirely.

[beegirl]

I won't scum read Pie unless a specific set of flips happen at this point o3o

[Luna Fox]

I will
I don't understand why but i feel like that post is pie trying to guilt trip me for wanting her to look at things from a different angle? Like idk, i dont have a feeling kraska was scum, i dont have a feeling GIF is scum either, I don't understand why i must be berated as if you've done something horrible to me, I read your points, but you arent reading Kraska's defenses, she already explained that you're assuming a bunch of things that she never even thought about. I don't think you can mind read people? Can you really say with 100% confidence that what you're saying is what crossed her head? What if she just has a different playstyle, her posts dont feel fake, they feel genuine (inb4 genuine isnt town).

GIF's been doing his thing and getting reads and you haven't engaged with him because you think personality break is something i can do? as scum?, If you know GIF well you know he's 100x a better reader of me than you are (not like it's any hard to see scum me anyway but whatever), and you havent engaged him about anything else, like i feel you're just tunnel visioning on this kraska read of yours and then you're just attributing all of it to GIF without actually trying to read GIF, he's not even scumreading you, he disagrees with your read on me, why arent you asking him about his other reads or do you agree with them? Who else do you think is scum? Oh right apparently you're gonna be VERY concerned about me if GIF flips scum, because we all know that everyone that's town must have 100% correct reads.

[Layla]

I personally do not think that pie is scumreading me at this point.