Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

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VOTE: Drip

[Elitism]

VOTE: Drip

mine.

drip should probably hardclaim she's not CONF scum for lying about being VT. I know that as town I've lied several times about being VT to hide as PR.

Creature for instance would know that I fake claimed VT when I was tracker to not get NK'ed in C-14.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

I just remembered this game has a very precise VC tool

@Elitism: Why lie about being vanilla in a role madness game, though?

[Elitism]

however my gut said that drip was scum but i felt i should've put her in the above null position

blehmeh

PEDIT: Never played role madness don't know what to expect. You have my vote to help you out.

[Almost50]

VT is only town-aligned, I don't get positive result on a goon.

Please re-read your role PM to see if it EXPLICITLY states you ONLY get a Vanilla on a VT on a . Better yet, just check the rules (spoiler: misc), where I quote "'Vanilla Cop,' if used, will return a result of 'Vanilla,' 'Not Vanilla,' or 'No Result.' Targets that yield a result of 'Vanilla' are Vanilla Townies, Mafia Goons, and a Serial Killer with no abilities or modifiers." and compare to your PM phrasing.

[Almost50]

is neopolitan not "vanilla cop"?

Not according to the wiki, but I know many mods consider them the same (would call it Neapolitan but actually make it work like a V-Cop).

[Almost50]

there's no sk this game too, it's 32/5/5
which means those were two vig shots

the rules have been edited for specifically THAT, so we don't know for sure anymore. wake may have opted to include a SK after all.

[Skybird]

dude. it's role madness.

What?

Yes, it is. That is why I said "slightly"...

Does this have any relevance whatsoever?

there are town VTs. there are scum VTs (goon). there are third-party VTs (serial killer). being a VT or not being a VT is literally not alignment indicative.

there's no sk this game too, it's 32/5/5
which means those were two vig shots

-Dunn

My bold.

From Wake's post:

Setup
This game has a Day start.
'Citizen' will be used in place of 'Vanilla Townie.'
This is a Semi-Closed Setup.
Scum have Daytalk.
Deadline extensions may be permitted.

Faction Ratio is not known.

This setup does not include any non-normal/Variant roles.
The game uses a specific version of Natural Action Resolution. It's outlined in 'Miscellaneous.'
There may be duplicate roles.
Any role may be Town or Scum.
Mod is NOT infallible. If you suspect a mistake, please let me know via PM right away.
Role assumptions are not advised.
ALL PTs will be revealed post-game.

I'm not caught up but I did want to point out that we don't know if it's 32/5/5. It was originally advertised that way but seeing that Wake said Faction Ratio is not known, we can't think that the two extra kills were vigs. They could be SKs or one vig and one SK.

[Skybird]

Sorry, I see almost50 beat me to it.

[Lapsa]

@DrippingGoofball why did you fakeclaim?

[Almost50]

i don't like you, a50

You're not the first and you won't be the last. Just get a number and stand in line!

[Elitism]

Every time Skybird talks I want to lynch them lol.

[Varsoon]

To be clear, my role checks whether or not my target is a Vanilla Townie.
My result was 'Not Vanilla Townie'.

[Zachstralkita]

I caught up with the thread.

Fuck Hot Chocolate and fuck trolls like that.

I want claims from Egg, Townblock and Zach/Dunn.

Hey sparky, you do realize what's good for you may not be good for other people, right?

Oh great I join role madness and I pull the token vanilla. Just great.

VOTE: DGB

DGB is not Vanilla Town.
I know this because I am a 1-shot Neapolitan.

Is this being done again after you know, after it kinda got did with iraon?


- Zach

[VA-11 Hall-A]

I caught up with the thread.

Fuck Hot Chocolate and fuck trolls like that.

I want claims from Egg, Townblock and Zach/Dunn.

Hey sparky, you do realize what's good for you may not be good for other people, right?

Oh great I join role madness and I pull the token vanilla. Just great.

VOTE: DGB

DGB is not Vanilla Town.
I know this because I am a 1-shot Neapolitan.

Is this being done again after you know, after it kinda got did with iraon?


- Zach

AAAAAAAAAND wrong browser again

I just woke up, ladies and gentlemen

[TownBlock]

VOTE: CCC

Everyone else is doing it

^vig/lynch this^

Math it is a 42 player role madness game therefore it is a bastard game which means not everything is logical

it would be possible to have a neo and 3 masons in the same game under these circumstances. I am not saying I completely buy ira's claim, I am saying all bets are off in role madness

42 player role madness != bastard

bastard does not mean unbalanced

Anyways I will not approve of voting iroanavp

let's get a bacde wagon started...

-Dunn

I agree that we should lynch bacde in the near future

or maybe a vigilante would care to shoot them

the iraon shenanigans were fun but now it's time to lynch the real scum imo

Right, which is why I instead voted Cookie Bakers.

Note how she jumps onto iroanavp for the reasoning "there can't be two vanilla town in a game" but doesn't consider DGB, or that it's a 42 person game
They also didn't consider that iroanavp didn't see the initial claim (which I believe regardless of his alignment) and used that as reasoning while ignoring the other points on him

-Dunn

Dgb is obvtown. It's it could be 45678875543 role madness. By it's nature, role madness strongly suggests only one vt.

I don't believe iraonvp because the stance is very unlikely given his posts.

Yeah, iron's scum. The wagon on us is gross.

~Titus

....This is fishy. This is what I am saying. I am not sure what the hell happened here but this is very weird from Titus.

Response Titus.

*glares*

No. CCC I have a town read on. Iroanavp is where we should be lynching.

I do not see a newbie player claiming VT out of the gate lying in a setup like this. I have played with Iroanavp enough for them to understand town don't lie. Iroanavp is scum.

Furthermore they probably claimed it as a VT cop thinking they probably wouldn't get checked by another cop. If you are a cop and scum aligned claiming VT makes sense as scum.

Rope Iroanavp today. Anyone suggesting otherwise gets FoS's from me. Shiny ones.

Spoiler:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseville ... G_1790.JPG

vote iraonavp

eat death

Seriously....Like if Iroanavp was telling the truth they would have to know VTs exist. The fact that one of the heads points it out and then conveniently pushes CCC today is HORRIBLE.

The stuff they accuse CCC of doing being a hypocrite is what Cookie Bakers is doing.

Stop voting the counter wagon.

over 1000 posts happened between this post and end of day

Agreed. But nothing in those posts changes the argument provided. In fact it enhances it.

If Iroanavp was a VT cop and town then he would know VTs would exist.

why isn't this the case if he was scum?

lynch me and bad things will happen >:C

fuck off

I caught up with the thread.

Fuck Hot Chocolate and fuck trolls like that.

I want claims from Egg, Townblock and Zach/Dunn.

Also if you try to force 3 people to claim for something dumb I will not be amused

-Dunn

I have information.

You don't claim before they do btw.

I can suspect why, but I wonder how it is relevant?

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

~Memeo

[Almost50]

OK, finished catching up. I'll just state my concerns about Irao and let the wiser guys decide:

1- I do not buy that both Irao and Shaziro decided to target eachother on N1 in a 41-players setup (41 after HC was lynched, so each of them had 40 choices, which is 2.5% to target any given slot at random. For them to be targeting specifically eachother that'd be 0.0625% a chance!). I do understand this is not quite the case as it was not "random", but still.. what are the odds?

2- Irao only announced their target after having been outed by Shaziro. He could've targeted just about anyone else and didn't want to out their real target.

3- I don't see a Neapolitan targeting someone in a Role Madness to confirm they're NOT a VT when that person didn't claim a VT in the first place.

On the other hand:

1- Shaziro did confirm Irao's Neapolitan claim.

2- I suspect "something" and I'm assuming "something" based on "something" (that is to say I could see an explanation of the Irao situation based on thread post contents), so Irao may still be town after all.

I would rather sheep varsoon as I see no point in him lying about an investigation result so early in the game. If DGB flips a VT we lynch Varsoon next, and he knows it, so the check result is very likely accurate.

Then again, I refguse to be a hypocrite and will wait for DGB to come and explain why she fake claimed (just as Irao did get the chance to) before I decide which way to go.

[MathBlade]

@TownBlock -- For your question about post 1925, my entire point was that VT cop + town did not make sense with the setup open. Therefore Iroanavp scum. Is he was scum it was role fishing pure and simple since I don't see scum being given a Neopolitan without some VTs. It doesn't make sense. Furthermore scum aren't interested in confirming town.

Segway: This is why I believe Varsoon's claim. They used Neopolitan properly.

I need more rope and votes. Vote stays on Iroanavp.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

I just remembered this game has a very precise VC tool

@Elitism: Why lie about being vanilla in a role madness game, though?

Iroanavp already did and Iroanavp has given bullshit countered by himself in the thread. Both these claims coming at the same time and Cookie Bakers calling DGB town for theirs is hella scummy.

Iroanavp, DGB, Cookie Bakers all three need rope bad.

[Lapsa]

2- I suspect "something" and I'm assuming "something" based on "something" (that is to say I could see an explanation of the Irao situation based on thread post contents), so Irao may still be town after all.

i suspect that you are up for diversion. although more likely that you're just crazy lunatic

[Lapsa]

reminder

Ask Cookie Bakers. Then again you will probably get scum misdirection as I have asked for a response on that numerous times :/

@MathBlade why do you scumread Cookie Bakers?

[Lapsa]

Cookie Bikers sad quiz

Sad prizes

This is how it won't work:

after everyone submits a guess, Cookie Bikers ignores those questions and the winner (steak always wins) gets nothing (apart from immortality)!
Second place also gets nothing and the third place gets nothing!

Players must be over 60 in order to participate because of the law restrictions!

Questions:

1. What color is Tito`s underwear?

Correct answer yields nothing and for every mislynch you suffer - you get nothing and never get it back.
For example, if you guess "Red" and she wears "Green" - you get nothing.

2. Who's Shiro?

a) random dude
b) scum part of hydra
c) undercover Shakespeer

Correct answer yields nothing.

3. ?

a)
b)
c) i like turtles

NOTHING

A1/A2/A3 are the answers and they'll be separated by "/".

Accountant

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Aeronaut

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Almost50

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AlpacaAlpaca

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Amalgam

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BBMolla

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Cookie Bakers

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Creature

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DrippingGoofball

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Egg

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Elyse

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Foxbird

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Hebichan

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Iraonavp

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KlingonCelt

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Lapsa

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Long_island_medium

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Mathblade

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Narna

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Parama

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PeregrineV

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RachMarie

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Seraphim

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Serrapaladin

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Shaziro

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Shos

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Skelda

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Skybird

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TownBlock

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VA-11 Hall-A

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Varsoon

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Deadline

: 1906150 days, 22 hours, 1 minute

[VA-11 Hall-A]

I think Lapsa's pretty much conf now.

[serrapaladin]

Can someone explain to me the difference in reaction to ira and dgb being caught in a lie? I think they both need to go. No single role in role-madness is valuable enough to be worth gambiting over. I also struggle believing ira is this incompetent.

[serrapaladin]

We should do more of what mathblade is saying