Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[TownBlock]

OK, finished catching up. I'll just state my concerns about Irao and let the wiser guys decide:

1- I do not buy that both Irao and Shaziro decided to target eachother on N1 in a 41-players setup (41 after HC was lynched, so each of them had 40 choices, which is 2.5% to target any given slot at random. For them to be targeting specifically eachother that'd be 0.0625% a chance!). I do understand this is not quite the case as it was not "random", but still.. what are the odds?

2- Irao only announced their target after having been outed by Shaziro. He could've targeted just about anyone else and didn't want to out their real target.

3- I don't see a Neapolitan targeting someone in a Role Madness to confirm they're NOT a VT when that person didn't claim a VT in the first place.

On the other hand:

1- Shaziro did confirm Irao's Neapolitan claim.

2- I suspect "something" and I'm assuming "something" based on "something" (that is to say I could see an explanation of the Irao situation based on thread post contents), so Irao may still be town after all.

I would rather sheep varsoon as I see no point in him lying about an investigation result so early in the game. If DGB flips a VT we lynch Varsoon next, and he knows it, so the check result is very likely accurate.

Then again, I refguse to be a hypocrite and will wait for DGB to come and explain why she fake claimed (just as Irao did get the chance to) before I decide which way to go.

So an on 67 but saw this and wanted to correct some stupidity despite thinking ira is scum. The chance of ira and shaziro picking any two targets is that low. If one picked you and one picked me the chances of that happening are the same of them picking each other.

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Dwlee

[MathBlade]

reminder

Ask Cookie Bakers. Then again you will probably get scum misdirection as I have asked for a response on that numerous times :/

@MathBlade why do you scumread Cookie Bakers?

I scum read Cookie Bakers for:

1) Blatant hypocrisy.
2) Defense of a known liar and just calling it "newb".
3) Poking at CC start of day and when Iroanavp got pressure escalating the CCC push.
4) I had the DGB/Titus interaction as sketchy in the PT N1 Shaziro can confirm. I don't see how Cookie Bakers is not scum with one of Iroanavp or DGB.

[RachMarie]

ok going with var's report here

Especially since it is DGB folks look at her bloody sig

VOTE: DGB

[Cookie Bakers]

Hey, Varsoon why did you fake claim? Dgb is town by play.

How did you miss the roses? I had sads.

[RachMarie]

We should do more of what mathblade is saying

Serra dear think a bit, yes some of what they are saying is accurate but do you REALLY think it is a good idea to lynch Masons on bloody day TWO?

[Cookie Bakers]

Can someone explain to me the difference in reaction to ira and dgb being caught in a lie? I think they both need to go. No single role in role-madness is valuable enough to be worth gambiting over. I also struggle believing ira is this incompetent.

We should do more of what mathblade is saying

Hey, let's lynch people for not taking what I view as the preordained action and ignore CCC.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: VA-11 Hall-A

Let's run this slot up to 16 votes

~T

Seems good to me, get some pressure on something that isn't the dumb parama wagon.

VOTE: VA-11 Hall-A

Why is this better than Parama?

ira is in this game

fuck another "aligned" filled game

VOTE: RachMarie

idk about everyone else but I'm voting scum

also

would be willing to PL ira for saying aligned...we have enough players we can afford one PL and it would make me soso happy plus he could be scum

but RachMarie is basically confscum at this point so I'll start there

Why?

VOTE: iraonvp

A vanilla claim that did not cc DGB?

~Titus

Why did you vote him for not ccing, when he went on to claim shortly after anyway (for no reason) and claims to have not seen the initial claim (I believe that.)

-Dunn

This is another reason I suspect Cookie Bakers.

[Cookie Bakers]

Math, you put any thought into behavior based reads yet or is it all about discrediting? Discredit basons? Discredit cookie? Discredit dgb? Discredit iraonvp?

[MathBlade]

Can someone explain to me the difference in reaction to ira and dgb being caught in a lie? I think they both need to go. No single role in role-madness is valuable enough to be worth gambiting over. I also struggle believing ira is this incompetent.

We should do more of what mathblade is saying

Hey, let's lynch people for not taking what I view as the preordained action and ignore CCC.

How about you stop trying to make me look bad and actually respond to what I post?

And yes. I thought I had a CC of RachMarie at this point since Fire didn't say they were in multiple hoods. I have seen scum claim things together then get fucking ignored because of the size of the game. That is why I CC'd RachMarie. I have no regrets about doing so since based on what I had it made sense.

Iroanavp,DGB, and Cookie Bakers all need rope.

[MathBlade]

Math, you put any thought into behavior based reads yet or is it all about discrediting? Discredit basons? Discredit cookie? Discredit dgb? Discredit iraonvp?

I do. However I am focusing on the three scum in front of me. There is only one lynch. No reason to focus anywhere else except confirmed scum. See how doesn't push then poke them later.

[MathBlade]

Hey, Varsoon why did you fake claim? Dgb is town by play.

How did you miss the roses? I had sads.

If you think Varsoon is fake claiming why aren't you voting them?

[Cookie Bakers]

If you want to lynch scum, you should vote CCC.

If you want to whine more about mechanics and my cc was wrong but let's lynch obvtown anyway, keep doing what you're doing.

[MathBlade]

Seriously if Varsoon was faking claiming here at this juncture that would be another scum to me.

I HATE fake guilties and anyone who has played at all with me knows this. Varsoon has. Furthermore the discussions has been Iroanavp and CCC. I do not see him fake claiming in this scenario as scum could easily fly under the radar and vote CCC. But if he was then that would be tantamount to a scum claim.

[Cookie Bakers]

Hey, Varsoon why did you fake claim? Dgb is town by play.

How did you miss the roses? I had sads.

If you think Varsoon is fake claiming why aren't you voting them?

For the same reason iraonvp isn't voted.

Town can lie. We vote scum.

[Elitism]

Caught up, I have a little love poem for you guys.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
This guy is scum,
Is that a vote we can do?

VOTE: Skelda

[MathBlade]

Hey, Varsoon why did you fake claim? Dgb is town by play.

How did you miss the roses? I had sads.

If you think Varsoon is fake claiming why aren't you voting them?

For the same reason iraonvp isn't voted.

Town can lie. We vote scum.

You need lots of rope.

I am going to work.

Iroanavp, DGB, Cookie Bakers.

Lynch the scums while I am at work please. Will check back tonight.

[Cookie Bakers]

Caught up, I have a little love poem for you guys.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
This guy is scum,
Is that a vote we can do?

VOTE: Skelda

Nope. They are town.

We can do CCC.

[Elitism]

Skybird Skelda boring hebichan are all heavy scum candidates for me.

Ira's town this is a derp-up on his part.

Accountant is scummy but I just don't think his heart was in this game so he kinda half-assed it and his actions are NAI to me. Trolling scum or trolling town, just trolling.

I reread Narna and he was okay-ish. On the fence about him.

Lapsa moving up in my books.

Still think CCC is town but Cookie seems absolutely positive they're mafia as if they're softing something.

Varsoon's claim looks pretty legit to me so DGB got some splainin' to do.

Glad to know that my solid townread on Shaziro was most likely right.

~T

[Lapsa]

Nope. They are town.

why?

[Cookie Bakers]

Wow, another person who thinks we're mystically sorting yet doesn't vote CCC?

By now the indirect shade overreactions and just diversions from CCC have got to be scum motivated.

[Elitism]

Elyse is town.

Cookie Bakers moving slightly up in my books.

Rach/Kling/Davehydraiforgotthename are most likely town.

Math Blade likely town

Bacde I haven't a clue, but lynching him is stupid and a coinflip.

Dunn/Zach are town.

Creature is probably scum.

Foxbird leans town.

Parama still shittingly blatant town.

Boem still shittingly blatant town.

Uh....

[Cookie Bakers]

Nope. They are town.

why?

Because of how they claimed VT. How they played yesterday

[boring]

I've seen CCC defensive and clumsy, and he flipped town. It wasn't like this. I think I might finally be seeing his scum-game.

VOTE: CCC

I spent most of yesterday in the Ira wagon, and I'll likely come back to it at some point.
Ira and DGB both lied about being VT. Can any remaining Neapolitans peek LIM next?

Also, did I miss it, or does no one care about Accountant's fake Innocent Child claim, followed by Elitism's [jk!] back-up claim?

[Elitism]

Oh yeah.

Serrapaladin leans town.

Seraphim is scum.

PEDIT: It's irrelevant boring. We were both lying/trolling.

~T