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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:49 am

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In post 1938, farside22 wrote:You've made no points about Infinity on why he is scum and day 2 you thought shadow was scum but said nothing about him day 3.
Infinity has been whiteknighting the Mathblade slot all game, his cop check was really bad, and I've explained my other points against him previously.
Shadow is notorious lynchbait (in my experience) and I thought his actions made sense as part of a larger picture as well as individually. Now I don't.
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:52 am

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In post 1946, Infinity 324 wrote:Well if it's only you then shadow could've JKed scum or the kill target but shadow is scum so no.

And I guess the best play is to not announce my investigative target so scum don't know you were working off that, as weird as it sounds

I hope we don't overlap
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:01 am

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Tracker does nothing if scum know who it's targeting.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:13 am

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Agreed w/ infinity. At work will check tonight.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:14 am

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In post 1952, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker does nothing if scum know who it's targeting.
Why don't you discuss whom your targeting then?
You won't die.
And since shadow claimed jk what's wrong tracking him to show whether he targets someone else.
Also why are you assuming smart isn't scum?
It's not like he's pushing a good case against anyone.
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:23 am

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I'm waiting for someone to give a good reason to be voting for whom they are voting for other then he hasn't shot anyone. Or X is still alive after claiming or X pushed a case on town therefore X is scum.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:24 am

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If I claim my target, scum will know to have them make the kill.

If math claims to track shadow, shadow just won't JK. I guess I'm not opposed to that though, cause it guarantees I'll get a result. But if I get no result that would confirm shadow as scum...

I guess shadow could block theoretical town-fire, but eh. I'm not really worried about that case...

The main reasons I'm reading smart as town is by PoE, cause I have a hard time seeing shadow or fire as town. Him not doing much since d1 isn't really AI, like I said before.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:25 am

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Fire is scum because his read progressions don't make sense, and he doesn't seem to have reasons to back them up.

Shadow is scum because he's been active lurking, opportunistically voted RC and RC was the counterwagon to him.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:28 am

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In post 1955, farside22 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to give a good reason to be voting for whom they are voting for other then he hasn't shot anyone. Or X is still alive after claiming or X pushed a case on town therefore X is scum.
The person I am voting hasn't shot anyone yet, is somehow still alive despite getting no pressure the whole game, and hasn't pushed any reasonable wagons the whole game.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:31 am

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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:32 am

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In post 1957, Infinity 324 wrote:Fire is scum because his read progressions don't make sense, and he doesn't seem to have reasons to back them up.

Shadow is scum because he's been active lurking, opportunistically voted RC and RC was the counterwagon to him.
People vote the opposing wagon often that NAI.
If you thought that then mm should have been a scum read.
Lurking I can't disagree with.
As for fire I recalled he thought math was scum because the meta debate, I'd say ask him why he is voting smart.

Fire: why are you voting for smart?
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:33 am

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In post 1920, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1917, Titus wrote:
In post 1912, Something_Smart wrote:I think Titus, Shadow_step and Mathblade are town.

Fire, can you promise me that you'll shoot in <farside, Infinity> tonight?

Honestly I'd prefer you shoot Infinity. Since I'm flipping town his cop result won't be valid anyway because it will be LYLO.

Also I recommend that Mathblade tracks Shadow to make sure he can't interfere with Fire's shot, if it in fact exists.
Shooting infinity fails unless scum also shoot him.

Infinity should get the cop check?
Oh crap Infinity is bulletproof isn't he.

Okay,
VOTE: NL
In post 1707, Something_Smart wrote:What is this game I can't even.

I kind of want to just find a strong townread and sheep them, but my strongest townread is Titus (who's voting me :roll: ) and I'm even having doubts about that slot.

The good news is that there's probably only 2 scum given that no quickhammer has occurred. And I'm still somewhat confident that farside is scum (or at least needs pressure), so:

VOTE: farside
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In post 790, Something_Smart wrote:What do people think about my points against MM/FA? I thought they were pretty noteworthy but people seem to just be ignoring them.
In post 825, Something_Smart wrote:I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.
Were you scum reading MM based on their interactions only or anything else?
It was mostly interactions. I am terrible at reading newbies, so I was really hesitant to commit to a strong read on him.
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In post 1955, farside22 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to give a good reason to be voting for whom they are voting for other then he hasn't shot anyone. Or X is still alive after claiming or X pushed a case on town therefore X is scum.
The person I am voting hasn't shot anyone yet, is somehow still alive despite getting no pressure the whole game, and hasn't pushed any reasonable wagons the whole game.
:roll:

Yeah your vote makes total sense.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:35 am

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I'm also going to point out fire had pressure day 1.
Infinity is alive and claimed cop so why is that not just as suspect for a cop to be alive this game?
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:37 am

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Also

I don't recall a single reason shadow gave for voting RC that wasn't "he said this argument was TvT"

PEdit: scum could've thought I was a possible mislynch given the weird claim
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:38 am

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In post 1905, Something_Smart wrote:Well from his POV, if Fire is going to shoot him tonight if he is in fact real, mislynching a not-Fire player (coughcoughME) would be game over.
I guess a possibility is to no-lynch, have Fire shoot Math and have Math track Shadow, if Fire is dead-set on shooting Math.
In post 1912, Something_Smart wrote:I think Titus, Shadow_step and Mathblade are town.

Fire, can you promise me that you'll shoot in <farside, Infinity> tonight?

Honestly I'd prefer you shoot Infinity. Since I'm flipping town his cop result won't be valid anyway because it will be LYLO.

Also I recommend that Mathblade tracks Shadow to make sure he can't interfere with Fire's shot, if it in fact exists.
In post 1925, Something_Smart wrote:Predictions:
I flip town
Fire shoots Math ANYWAY
Scumteam of farside/Infinity wins
And in case smart is taking about fire there, let's bring in the big fat elephant in the room that shows smart believes fire claim
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:28 am

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In post 1960, farside22 wrote:Fire: why are you voting for smart?
I think he is scum, and especially the way he has only popped in here to try to stop a lynch on himself without actually pushing his scumreads that much. He calls you scum, but he is really not trying to push that over his own survival. Him no lynching is ridiculous and he should realize that since we aren't in MYLO.

I also really didn't like how he pushed the idea on day 1 that I could magically read him better than anyone else. That seemed like pandering to my ego.
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:20 am

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♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣


something_smart(3):
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Fire Assassin(2):
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mathblade:
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NO LYNCH:
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:38 pm

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In post 1962, farside22 wrote:I'm also going to point out fire had pressure day 1.
Infinity is alive and claimed cop so why is that not just as suspect for a cop to be alive this game?
This has been a point of mine all day.
Infinity was claimed cop.
Fire claimed vig.
MM outed as tracker.

Why was a VT shot?
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:44 pm

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In post 1967, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1962, farside22 wrote:I'm also going to point out fire had pressure day 1.
Infinity is alive and claimed cop so why is that not just as suspect for a cop to be alive this game?
This has been a point of mine all day.
Infinity was claimed cop.
Fire claimed vig.
MM outed as tracker.

Why was a VT shot?
I'm not lynching either claimed ability.
Just to be clear and I think scum would fear the vig more if real.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:19 pm

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In post 1961, farside22 wrote:Yeah your vote makes total sense.
Do you not see the reasoning behind it?

If you think Fire is scum, why wouldn't you go along with it?

Also I thought you were scumreading me for associations with Math, is that still the case?
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:35 pm

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In post 1969, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1961, farside22 wrote:Yeah your vote makes total sense.
Do you not see the reasoning behind it?

If you think Fire is scum, why wouldn't you go along with it?

Also I thought you were scumreading me for associations with Math, is that still the case?
Again that's sarcasm, which is clear based on what I presented against you.
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:35 am

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In post 1966, Alchemist21 wrote:
♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣


something_smart(3):
Titus, fire assassin, farside

Fire Assassin(2):
Infinity, mathblade

mathblade:
shadow step

NO LYNCH:
something_smart

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:30:00)
2 days and I'm not switching.
If someone doesn't hammer by day end, Fire shot tonight and use your vig ability.
Since both Infinity and math don't see the town reason on how we clear a bunch of fucking players by coordinating I don't care if you shot math at this point.
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:48 am

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Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...

Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:53 am

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In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...

Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
And I don't trust you or Math so.....
Again do you know Smart is town, because so far no action or comments he made today match up at all.
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