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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:55 pm

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serrapaladin wrote:Claiming me as target is pretty convenient. Particularly given ccc took some time to 'read'.

But also if DGB wanted to try to make scum use a shot on her, claiming VT is hardly the way to do that.

For lies to avoid lynch all liars, I think they demonstrably need to benefit town and not scum.
How does DGB's claim benefit scum? You think scum wouldn't assume that she could be fakeclaiming and target anyway?

The point still stands that it's better than claiming BP outright
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:56 pm

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In post 2574, serrapaladin wrote:Claiming me as target is pretty convenient. Particularly given ccc took some time to 'read'.

But also if DGB wanted to try to make scum use a shot on her, claiming VT is hardly the way to do that.

For lies to avoid lynch all liars, I think they demonstrably need to benefit town and not scum.
This is why DGB needs more looking into, but CCC needs rope. If they flip town, then Titus is scum, and that gives us tasty associatives
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:57 pm

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But she was under no pressure whatsoever to claim. No claim is more likely to get her killed.
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:57 pm

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In post 2574, serrapaladin wrote:Claiming me as target is pretty convenient. Particularly given ccc took some time to 'read'.

But also if DGB wanted to try to make scum use a shot on her, claiming VT is hardly the way to do that.

For lies to avoid lynch all liars, I think they demonstrably need to benefit town and not scum.
They do.

You're forgetting this from the role madness wiki. Source: Mafia Scum Wiki
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:58 pm

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Mehhhhh I still think it's possible CCC is telling the truth but casting doubt on Titus is scummy.

Did CCC ever explain his rationale for choosing Serra?

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I also think Egg is basically confscum
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:59 pm

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That last post was at valhalla

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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:00 pm

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In post 2402, CCC wrote:
In post 2390, Elitism wrote:Eh nvm it's not that credible anymore.

CCC what motivated you to check serrapaladin out of all 40 other candidates?
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:01 pm

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In post 2577, serrapaladin wrote:But she was under no pressure whatsoever to claim. No claim is more likely to get her killed.
We disagree here, claims of any sort obviously draw attention to you, as evidenced.
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:01 pm

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In post 2577, serrapaladin wrote:But she was under no pressure whatsoever to claim. No claim is more likely to get her killed.
We disagree here, claims of any sort obviously draw attention to you, as evidenced.
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:01 pm

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In post 2575, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:
serrapaladin wrote:Claiming me as target is pretty convenient. Particularly given ccc took some time to 'read'.

But also if DGB wanted to try to make scum use a shot on her, claiming VT is hardly the way to do that.

For lies to avoid lynch all liars, I think they demonstrably need to benefit town and not scum.
How does DGB's claim benefit scum? You think scum wouldn't assume that she could be fakeclaiming and target anyway?

The point still stands that it's better than claiming BP outright
The game had sidetracked massively because of the other vt claim, and people were unsure if GDB was joking or not about his claim after Iraon claimed. The pro-town thing to do would admit you were joking and his bp stays hidden. The anti-town thing to do would be to lie and continue sidetracking the game.

I'm not trying to say gdb is confscum, but they definitely earned some scumreads.
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:01 pm

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Official Vote Count
2.12


CCC
(18): Cookie Bakers, iraonavp, Foxbird, boring, Shaziro, VA-11 Hall-A, DrippingGoofball, Varsoon, Narna, Lapsa, TownBlock, Klingoncelt, Creature, Skelda, Elitism, Parama, Elyse, serrapaladin
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(2): Boem_u_dusi, RachMarie
MathBlade
(1): PeregrineV
Accountant
(1): CCC
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(1): MathBlade
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(1): Accountant
Egg
(1): long_island_medium

Not Voting
(12): Almost50, hebichan, Map Wolf, Thor665, Bacde, Bellaphant, Seraphim, amalgam, Skybird, Aeronaut, Egg, Drixx

With 37 alive, it takes 19 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-08-30 22:30:00)
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:01 pm

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In post 2578, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 2574, serrapaladin wrote:Claiming me as target is pretty convenient. Particularly given ccc took some time to 'read'.

But also if DGB wanted to try to make scum use a shot on her, claiming VT is hardly the way to do that.

For lies to avoid lynch all liars, I think they demonstrably need to benefit town and not scum.
They do.

You're forgetting this from the role madness wiki. Source: Mafia Scum Wiki
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:02 pm

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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:03 pm

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Someone bang that hammer
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:06 pm

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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:09 pm

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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:11 pm

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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:12 pm

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In post 2571, Elyse wrote:@VA-11

Why does cookie have to be lying for CCC to be town?
He doesn't, zach was confused
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:12 pm

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I JUST REALIZED

WHERE THE HELL IS THOR

HE'D BE PERFECT
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:12 pm

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I SUMMON THE GREAT GOD THOR, MAY HE SMITE UPON THE SCUM
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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:14 pm

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not the cannibal corpse one not the cannibal corpse one not the cannibal corpse one
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In post 2571, Elyse wrote:@VA-11

Why does cookie have to be lying for CCC to be town?
He doesn't, zach was confused
im never confused fool, i hope you hit your shin on a metal object in pitch black darkness multiple times over you fucking heathen
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:17 pm

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Any last minute suggestions (which we're free to ignore), on whom to check?
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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:20 pm

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DGB, Math, Klingon

Yeah, I know Kling claimed mason. It is possible (though incredibly remote) that the three claimed Masons are scum together, which would help explain none of them dying. 3 protectives happening to all hit separate Mason's, or the mason/Masons that scum hit seems unlikely to me.
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:21 pm

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I suggest DGB, Skybird, Townblock/Egg.
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:22 pm

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DGB's a waste in my opinion, not sure how Dunn feels on the subject
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