Mini 1815: Game of Thrones S1E1 GAME OVER

[mhsmith0]

Wrt flavor, I'm somewhat in favor of a mass claim of "major character" or "not a major character". Major characters being Starks, the king, lannisters, daenerys, etc. Would rather survey opinion on it first though. Does anyone have a solid reason for objecting?

[mhsmith0]

At this moment, I'm starting to prefer being lynched and not being belittled as opposed to this alternative.

I'm sorry for being a jerk about it, btw. But it was, to me, an indicative moment. You forgot how many players there were in the game, and it's really hard to do this as a wolf in the setup. If you think you had something else that is strongly indicative I'd be happy to talk about it instead.

[Radja]

Day 4, VC 6

Will is caught fleeing from the wall by lord Eddard Stark's men.

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Wisdom (5)

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KuroiXHF

Not Voting (4)

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Gorkington, Dwlee99, mhsmith0, Wisdom

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch! Deadline is on August 22nd at 08:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2016-08-22 20:00:00).

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[KuroiXHF]

Wrt flavor, I'm somewhat in favor of a mass claim of "major character" or "not a major character". Major characters being Starks, the king, lannisters, daenerys, etc. Would rather survey opinion on it first though. Does anyone have a solid reason for objecting?

I am not objecting to this. I see no reason why any town would object. With no clears (let's be honest, Gork could be scum) and it being so late in the game, I think now may be as good a time as any.

At this moment, I'm starting to prefer being lynched and not being belittled as opposed to this alternative.

I'm sorry for being a jerk about it, btw. But it was, to me, an indicative moment. You forgot how many players there were in the game, and it's really hard to do this as a wolf in the setup. If you think you had something else that is strongly indicative I'd be happy to talk about it instead.

I don't think you're intending on being a jerk. I think it's more circumstantial and I'm upset at the circumstances. No hard feeling, and I'm sure I'd be the greatest jerk if I was in your place. It's kind of what I do.

[Wisdom]

Wrt flavor, I'm somewhat in favor of a mass claim of "major character" or "not a major character". Major characters being Starks, the king, lannisters, daenerys, etc. Would rather survey opinion on it first though. Does anyone have a solid reason for objecting?

What does this accomplish?

[Wisdom]

Wisdom (5) - KuroiXHF

wat

[mhsmith0]

Wrt flavor, I'm somewhat in favor of a mass claim of "major character" or "not a major character". Major characters being Starks, the king, lannisters, daenerys, etc. Would rather survey opinion on it first though. Does anyone have a solid reason for objecting?

What does this accomplish?

What's the downside? The upside is it locks a wolf into "im a major character" or "I'm not", which slightly restricts his options going forward.

Why are you thinking kuroi is a wolf here, and/or that gork isn't?

[Wisdom]

do you think the miscount moment was faked? Or do you think that he, with two teammates, would legitimately forget how many players there are in the game?

The latter most likely. This is not the only game he's in, knowing him he could easily derp for a moment and think this is a micro. Having two teammates is irrelevant.

[Wisdom]

The upside is it locks a wolf into "im a major character" or "I'm not", which slightly restricts his options going forward.

And? They have a fakeclaim anyway.

[Wisdom]

The downside is it might tell scum who the vig is, duh

[KuroiXHF]

Wisdom (5) - KuroiXHF

wat

I'm a day four quintiple voter. What's so hard to understand?
It's my special ability.

I see your special ability is you need six votes to be lynched.

[KuroiXHF]

The downside is it might tell scum who the vig is, duh

I don't think that's a downside. The vig could still shoot scum, even if shot.

[Wisdom]

Sure, but if the game doesn't end today and the vig isn't shot, we have a conftown in 3p lylo

[mhsmith0]

The upside is it locks a wolf into "im a major character" or "I'm not", which slightly restricts his options going forward.

And? They have a fakeclaim anyway.

They do presumably have a fake claim. But a wolf might make play for a better fake claim in LYLO after more flips. Again, what's the downside?

Edit: why do you think being a major character (or not) is pr indicative? Prs have been:
A stark /major character (bran)
A character named in the flavor (will)
A non major character (bg)

I'd think it's not indicative at this point tbh, at least at the level I'm talking about.

[Wisdom]

There's zero upside in claiming anything. Scum have a fakeclaim and they're just going to claim according to that.
There is a downside however small in claiming anything. Scum can take a better guess as to who's the vig is.

It's really simple.

[Dwlee99]

Sure, but if the game doesn't end today and the vig isn't shot, we have a conftown in 3p lylo

unless the vig is an sk :I

[Wisdom]

and no it's not "presumably". I've been scum in two Radja games and I had fakeclaims.

[KuroiXHF]

They almost certainly have a fake claim. When Wisdom and I were scum in Pokemon Episode Two mafia, we were both given fake claims.

[Wisdom]

yet you know that and favor smith's bullshit?

[KuroiXHF]

The upside is it locks a wolf into "im a major character" or "I'm not", which slightly restricts his options going forward.

And? They have a fakeclaim anyway.

They do presumably have a fake claim. But a wolf might make play for a better fake claim in LYLO after more flips. Again, what's the downside?

Edit: why do you think being a major character (or not) is pr indicative? Prs have been:
A stark /major character (bran)
A character named in the flavor (will)
A non major character (bg)

I'd think it's not indicative at this point tbh, at least at the level I'm talking about.

No. Please do NOT think of it like that. Being major or not does NOT make a difference. My fake claim was Nurse Joy, a relatively well known character in that episode. Radja doesn't give the scraps.

[KuroiXHF]

yet you know that and favor smith's bullshit?

More than I do yours, yeah. Plus, with your strategy, there wouldn't be a clear. Scum would just claim vig.

[Wisdom]

While with smith's strategy there will be a clear how?

[Gorkington]

Sure, but if the game doesn't end today and the vig isn't shot, we have a conftown in 3p lylo

unless the vig is an sk :I

A) we probably already lose in this case.
B) why is this your focus the last 2-3 days?

[KuroiXHF]

While with smith's strategy there will be a clear how?

I'm not saying there will be a clear with his strategy, but there's not going to be a clear either way. Let's say we go through with your strategy and we don't claim. Then we mislynch someone tonight. Tomorrow, we'll have one of us will say, "I'm the vig!" And then scum will say, "I'm the vig!"

There's no risk to scum because either way, there'll be a 50% chance of mislynch but the power goes from the PR to the VT.

[Wisdom]

Tomorrow, we'll have one of us will say, "I'm the vig!" And then scum will say, "I'm the vig!"

The one remaining will be conftown in this case.