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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:16 pm

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In post 24, mykonian wrote:
N wrote:
In post 19, mykonian wrote:N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod.
why are you sucking up to me? I'm the last person to get to pick a mission.
Ehm, I don't think you got that I never played a game like this. I'm not "sucking up" to you because of some strategy, it's just as it is. I like you N, whether you believe it or not ;) You are also the person I know best here, so there's that and so far you've seemed pleasantly paranoid? I think I'm happy calling you town for now.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:42 pm

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Same as myko, I've never played this game
(but I've never played mafia either sooooo...)
but I lurked the CotM games a bit
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:12 am

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With one non CotM gane under my belt I think I am the resident expert.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:08 am

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zzz I think only klick might challenge me for mishmash munchkin in this set of players... ;)
In post 25, N wrote:
In post 24, mykonian wrote:
N wrote:
In post 19, mykonian wrote:N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod.
why are you sucking up to me? I'm the last person to get to pick a mission.
Ehm, I don't think you got that I never played a game like this. I'm not "sucking up" to you because of some strategy, it's just as it is. I like you N, whether you believe it or not ;) You are also the person I know best here, so there's that and so far you've seemed pleasantly paranoid? I think I'm happy calling you town for now.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:37 am

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In post 19, mykonian wrote:so first time playing, but I assume this is just like mafia in the tells it uses. Lying people are lying people.
Me too, but I've read through a couple games, and I've found that applying mafia tells does not work well at all. (Or I suck at it. Or both.) This game is supposed to be based around townhunting, and IMO it works a lot better.
Why? Probably because this game provides limited information in the place of flips, and that information is centered around our townreads (who passes/fails missions) rather than our scumreads (the flips of the players we lynch), as in a normal mafia game. (I actually toyed with the idea of trying to send as many spies as possible on mission 1 or 2 to see what they would do, but that seemed risky and unlikely to be worthwhile.)

Also is the fact that spies are not exactly "lying" per se; they want who they want on the team, and they're usually straightforward about it.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:26 am

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really not that far off now I tend to hunt, I think.

you are a spy, aren't you?

We'll see how good my hunting is.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:28 am

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How did you get a scumread from that?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:47 am

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Told you it's not too different from mafia. First sentence is fine, you'd make that as town or as scum. Second has the keyword "supposed", where you steer away from applying the theory to the game at hand, and in stead speak about the easy hypothetical. This you'd unconciously do easier as scum, where you, by choice or not, want to look which way the wind blows first. Third sentence is an iffy tell, some people just like the word "probably". Otherwise a pretty null sentence, just theory. Conclusion has the keyword "usually", which has the same issue as the 2nd sentence, where the post is made to discuss a hypothetical in stead of playing the game at hand.

Hence your post gets a very theory heavy and indirect feel, where you seem to be passive and waiting for someone else to do something. As you'd do when you're scum.

Won't say that's that, but for 2 pages in, I'd rather not have you on my team.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:18 am

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In post 32, mykonian wrote:Told you it's not too different from mafia.
I still disagree. For one thing, you'll never find out conclusively if this read is right.
First sentence is fine, you'd make that as town or as scum.
Not sure why you aren't applying this logic to the other sentences, but ok.
Second has the keyword "supposed", where you steer away from applying the theory to the game at hand, and in stead speak about the easy hypothetical.
Umm...no. From what I've seen of this game, you are supposed to townhunt; that's the way the game is designed. People
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try to scumhunt. It won't work very well. I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying here.
This you'd unconciously do easier as scum, where you, by choice or not, want to look which way the wind blows first.
Because you clearly know my town and scum play so well.
Third sentence is an iffy tell, some people just like the word "probably". Otherwise a pretty null sentence, just theory.
I do like the word "probably", and other similar qualifying words. I can provide evidence if you want.
Conclusion has the keyword "usually", which has the same issue as the 2nd sentence, where the post is made to discuss a hypothetical in stead of playing the game at hand.
That's just weak. Are you expecting me to have a solid knowledge of common spy meta when I have never even played this game before?
Hence your post gets a very theory heavy
True
and indirect feel,
Arguable. I think a better description is "non-forceful".
where you seem to be passive
Again arguable. I think a better description is "unassertive".
and waiting for someone else to do something.
True again. Nobody had even discussed who we're sending on the mission.
As you'd do when you're scum.
Because you clearly know my town and scum play so well.
Won't say that's that, but for 2 pages in, I'd rather not have you on my team.
If we're going to pick apart language, why'd you say
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team? Your team won't come around for a while, and I'd think you'd not want me on
any
team.

So basically, you don't like that I'm using non-forceful language and not speaking in absolutes. It is probably true ( :wink: ) that scum do that more often than town, but that's a gross generalization and you're applying it to me without knowledge of my playstyle. I'm an unassuming person and I tend to devalue my own opinion unless I am very confident, and I use that type of language all the time, as both alignments (and I can provide plenty of evidence for this if it comes to that).
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:32 am

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It'll be quite hard to respond to any part of that post without nitpicking, because of the quote that goes after every single sentence I've made. And really, over half the time you didn't have to do that, because you had nothing to say about the sentence, really.

And all that mess really does is that you disagree with my arguments and that I put it too strongly, so you must be town. Of course it's putting it strongly. It's page 2. But the fact that after a very noncommittal theory post you manage to make a very impressive mess about how I shouldn't be calling you scum already does rather send me into a tunnel. I don't like it a bit.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:39 am

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OK, fair enough. I didn't have to do that. But the point is that you're attacking me because of my word choice, without knowing anything about me as a player. Do you acknowledge that?

I'm also interested in where you saw me argue that because your arguments were weak I must be town.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:10 am

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Hi all!

I get to pick first!

Why should I pick you?
Who would you rather not see me pick?
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:34 am

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You should pick me because you shouldn't pick me.
I'd rather you not pick those who I'd rather you pick.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:27 am

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In post 36, Radja wrote:Hi all!

I get to pick first!

Why should I pick you?
Who would you rather not see me pick?
You should pick me because I'm Resistance and because my motivations should be obvious from my posts (soon, if they aren't already).
I haven't seen anyone say something towny, though I have a very slight scumlean on N for (though that could just be be personality) and a decent scumread on mykonian for this:
In post 34, mykonian wrote:And all that mess really does is that you disagree with my arguments and that I put it too strongly, so you must be town. Of course it's putting it strongly. It's page 2. But the fact that after a very noncommittal theory post you manage to make a very impressive mess about how I shouldn't be calling you scum already does rather send me into a tunnel. I don't like it a bit.
which misrepresents my play and doesn't make any sense.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 36, Radja wrote:Hi all!

I get to pick first!

Why should I pick you?
Who would you rather not see me pick?
Because Im nice!
I don't think SS should be picked.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:51 pm

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In post 36, Radja wrote:Hi all!

I get to pick first!

Why should I pick you?
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pick me and I'll pick you when it's my turn!
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:49 pm

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I hope our first operation doesn't end in fai
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An early win is crucial for us as the game gets harder as we go on.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:52 pm

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In post 19, mykonian wrote:so first time playing, but I assume this is just like mafia in the tells it uses. Lying people are lying people.

Don't have meta on most of you, I think. Klick, it's been a while! N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod. Ele and midget I know from sitechat, shoooooould be sort of doable? Radja I like but I wouldn't dare to call him. The rest of you I'd probably need to get a feel of.
I'm in site chat occassionally! :(
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:54 pm

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In post 21, N wrote:
In post 19, mykonian wrote:N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod.
why are you sucking up to me? I'm the last person to get to pick a mission.
This reeks of over-paranoia and is probably spy. Myko's post is like an
R
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:09 pm

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aah shit.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:09 pm

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YO RADJA MY BOY MY DUDE ROCCO MY BOY YO.

HIT ME UP P H A M .
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:52 pm

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MISSION ME UP CAP'N
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:52 pm

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In post 43, Ircher wrote:
In post 21, N wrote:
In post 19, mykonian wrote:N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod.
why are you sucking up to me? I'm the last person to get to pick a mission.
This reeks of over-paranoia and is probably spy. Myko's post is like an
R
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ur bad at this
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:02 pm

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In post 42, Ircher wrote:
In post 19, mykonian wrote:so first time playing, but I assume this is just like mafia in the tells it uses. Lying people are lying people.

Don't have meta on most of you, I think. Klick, it's been a while! N is trustworthy, he's my fav listmod. Ele and midget I know from sitechat, shoooooould be sort of doable? Radja I like but I wouldn't dare to call him. The rest of you I'd probably need to get a feel of.
I'm in site chat occassionally! :(
And I reviewed a game of yours, didn't I?

Anyway, I feel like I don't know you well, I speak more to the others!
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:40 pm

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It feels like there is a lot of distancing going on here. I'm surprised at how fast some people are pointing at others already.
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