Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[RachMarie]

Egg dear you gotta type out the full name seraphim or this silly vote counter thingy will not recognize it

[Cookie Bakers]

I'm not one of those idiots who fakeclaims as town

What happens if you die Egg? Some scum can claim they acted on a night you blocked them. Force them to stick to the truth and have us read you better.

[Shaziro]

K just finished my skim read people.

My thoughts of this thread can be summarized in a few simple sentences.

Pants are awesome for protecting roles.
Cookie Bakers is being derpy but arrogant. This is usually Titus town when this happens.
Hot Chocolate wagon at this point worth analyzing when we know more. The game turning towards lynching a low poster IMHO is interesting.

VOTE: boem_u_dusi

For voting via steak rarity to display confidence but doesn't expand on why and then says they can be uncooked later. I think when boem voted ironavp earlier they were trying to sheep but then realized the wagon wasn't going anywhere so started dropping things from "rare" to innocent child, but there is no explanation of such.

Sibling*

I am trying to figure out why not a single of the claimed masons got shot. Like I mentioned in the PT w/ Shaziro I had scum reads on Cookie butters and Parama and DGB all as scum reads and this happens. Like what? Assuming there are at least two scum teams in a 42 player game how did they communicate? I can understand WiFoM a bit but that seems a bit much with 4 NKs.

FYI motion detector sees if some activity happened on a slot. It doesn't say what.

And good god. It is not a preference it is my gender.

*glares hard*

Look at these two posts in context. Unless something happened in the hood, this is a pretty rapid transition.

Stuff was happening in the hood at that time, but I don't know if it was relevant or not. I'll check in the AM.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

Shaziro your argument is that we softed blue mafia so the other mafia team doesn't kill us?

You really think we'd soft mafia...?

[Wake1]

If any player desires a personal PT to keep track of this game, PM me and it will be delivered.

[Cookie Bakers]

Shaziro your argument is that we softed blue mafia so the other mafia team doesn't kill us?

You really think we'd soft mafia...?

I was once mislynched over a similar error. As the SK, I "slipped" being blue scum. Oddly enough I think Wake modded that game too.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

I almost thought that was a joke, I hope no one else took it seriously as Dunn did.

[Cookie Bakers]

@zach/Dunn, thoughts on Math?

[Shaziro]

Shaziro your argument is that we softed blue mafia so the other mafia team doesn't kill us?

You really think we'd soft mafia...?

I mean, the other thought process was that you could be a mafia traitor with the blue team, trying to get them not to kill you. Pick your poison really. And yes, you very much could have been softing it and ready to use the defense "It was nothing but a joke". That's kinda the point of crumbs, making them blend in.

[iraonavp]

You asked a question in 2642.

Okay, I got confused...

Why are you still voting VA-11 Hall-A when they explained that they cannot be claiming vlue mafia and you just ignored context?

Because at the moment I don't believe 'em? I'm waiting for others to weigh in, and for me to have gotten some decent sleep. Why are you concerned about one vote on somebody else?

Because I think you are scum-aligned, and this post only convinces me more.

[Skelda]

That's a really bad argument, Shaziro. When it comes to crumbing as Mafia, the risk seems like it far outweighs the reward. Making a crumb that is obvious enough for scum to find but not obvious enough for Town to find and lynch you for is basically impossible.

And even if the other Mafia team did pick up on it, the benefit is what? A couple more Days of life before they know to Nightkill you later? It doesn't make sense.

[Shaziro]

If scum avoid crosskilling, they can cripple town, then duke it out later once it's down to one on one. You're also missing the "Traitor making themselves known to their team" argument.

[Skelda]

I'm not convinced about Shaziro being scum. I think Shaziro and MathBlade are both Town. I think over-analyzing stuff like that is Townish. But I still think it is a bad reason to suspect someone.

[Skelda]

If scum avoid crosskilling, they can cripple town, then duke it out later once it's down to one on one. You're also missing the "Traitor making themselves known to their team" argument.

But if they incriminate themselves and get lynched, then they never even get to that point. And since there are more Town than scum, Town are more likely to catch that sort of thing, especially after a Blue scum has flipped.

I guess I can see the benefit for a Traitor, but still that seems unnecessary. I would not bank on scum that I can't communicate with picking up on something like that if I were scum.

[Shaziro]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor

The mafia know a traitor exists if this is a normal game, and are likely trying to find them. Saying "I'm blue" and then playing it off as a joke or a lolsorandom song reference is a damn good way for them to get themselves found.

[Cookie Bakers]

@shaziro, who is your third neighbor?

[Shaziro]

It was Math, Fire Assassin, and me. Fire is like, very very dead. I've said this before, I think?

[Cookie Bakers]

I forgot. Also dunn was singing a song.

[iraonavp]

Shaziro do you know that saying you are blue means you are VT in epicmafia?

[Cookie Bakers]

[iraonavp]

I'm not convinced about Shaziro being scum. I think Shaziro and MathBlade are both Town. I think over-analyzing stuff like that is Townish. But I still think it is a bad reason to suspect someone.

Maybe I can understand if you think it's null-aligned, but how could it possibly be town-aligned to make nonsensical arguments?

[Cookie Bakers]

Shaziro do you know that saying you are blue means you are VT in epicmafia?

It does, but that's not the context. Can't be with the egg/townblock situation.

[Shaziro]

Never played on epicmafia. Both of you do realize that the argument "I was just quoting a song" or "I was making a joke about epicmafia despite it not being mentioned, because that's where this guy plays" is exactly what the goal would be if that's a traitor making himself known to his team, right?

[Varsoon]

I got an action failure last night when I investigated DGB to see if he had a gun.

...so there's that.

[Cookie Bakers]

I'm not convinced about Shaziro being scum. I think Shaziro and MathBlade are both Town. I think over-analyzing stuff like that is Townish. But I still think it is a bad reason to suspect someone.

Maybe I can understand if you think it's null-aligned, but how could it possibly be town-aligned to make nonsensical arguments?

Shaziro's nonsense is nonsense I have seen before. Many play based on feels and not logic.