Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[Thor665]

Yeah Thor he tried to get it in normal first though.

So he actually worked overtime to make the roles normal and not bastard.

Noted.

But what about my case on medium?

Seems fine body removal, like the case on Lapsa better.

I played a game with him where he was town and he's about the same in this one. I don't know, he's hard to read.

Do you think he's helpful as town?
If the answer is no - then if he's hard to read this looks like an optimal lynch.

That is the definition of normal roles.

I don't think that's actually true as I recall Normals could be Normal with a minor assortment of slight non-Normal tweaks.
That said, if Mod gets dodgy in the answer I'll back your play.
If he isn't dodgy - you wanna lynch Lapsa?

@mod can you please either confirm or deny if you are running follower in exactly the way the wiki describes?

@Mod - would love an answer to this question still.

[Thor665]

We could even go with the obligatory mod sidestep question of;

@Mod - do all the roles in this game conform with the roles as presented in Wiki, which has been suggested as the way a Normal game is run, and you indicated Normal Game roles.

Which should still be illuminating and allow him to duck the ICing he knows he can't do or deny.

[Elyse]

Meh, I can handle parking a vote there until something more enticing comes along. I could see their posts either being scummy, or townie with a completely foreign perspective. You guys know them better. If you're sure it's not their normal approach, I can lean scum.

VOTE: Mathblade

I want to lynch this

[Wake1]

@mod can you please either confirm or deny if you are running follower in exactly the way the wiki describes?

Per the Wiki, the Follower learns what action a player performed, but not who that player targeted.

[Wake1]

@Mod - do all the roles in this game conform with the roles as presented in Wiki, which has been suggested as the way a Normal game is run, and you indicated Normal Game roles.

The only difference with this game from regular Large Normals is that we balanced it the way we wanted it, and have allowed Hydras. All roles and their mechanics are Normal.

[RachMarie]

Oh thank ye kindly oh dear modly one for your illuminating answers

[TownBlock]

HOLY FUCK HE JUST

@Townblock,

Since Dwlee and your other head don't seem to be playing, can you give a reads list of just your thoughts?

~Titus

Creature - kind of lurking it out and throwing a vote down on my wagon. don't like that
DrippingGoofball - don't like the way she handled the claiming and neo situation
PeregrineV - not enough content
VA-11 Hall-A (Dunnstral / Zachstralkita) - most scummy of all "active" posters. "oh a joat has a rb ability = roleblocker something something setup spec something something scumslip something something" "oh no we're not scum because we slipped" "hey you're scum because you slipped" and a lot more where that came from
serrapaladin - I think he's town
Skybird - would lynch 7/10
hebichan - no read
Narna - don't like this slot
Varsoon - probably town at this point in time
Egg - looks okay-ish to me. don't really like his elyse roleblock, and maybe scum by poe
Aeronaut - post moar pls
Transcend - yeah this is town
boring - lots of sheeping. not a lot of original thoughts. got a little better with recent posts. not sure what to think about it atm. does anyone here have more experience with boring?
Seraphim - I'd lynch this so hard
Drixx - not sure leaning town

iraonavp - pretty sure this is just caught scum

Elyse - town
Cookie Bakers (Titus / Shiro) - townlean
Map Wolf - not enough of the postings yet
Lapsa - trolly scum or trolly town? only time will tell.
Foxbird - no content
Boem_u_dusi - won't discard this as scum, getting more likely by the minute
Almost50 - null leading town
Skelda - I think this is scum

long_island_medium - I don't like the WKing tbh. can ira check this next night

Gollum - claimed miller, but predecessor didn't. no opinion
Thor665 - null
Shaziro - I like this guy
Mathblade - town

@valhalla why did you voyeur bacde

please lynch this shit oh my god

- Zach

oh no, I am telling a scum with a confirmed role to investigate a scumspect? how could I? if they're on different teams, I'm sure ira wants to catch other scum too. and if they're on the same team, then when ira says he got a negative on lim and lim flips scum, he's screwed. all of this is moot because lim fakeclaimed vanilla in the first place and later retracted it

Oh I see your point now. Dudes just let me be spicy and scum lean

Zach

your slot in peace.

Valhalla - I hate hydras backpedaling on each other. They are generating a lot of discussion for town though, quality bartending.

How are you gonna scumlean Zach, anyway? I'm probably the obvtowniest person here.

why are you so intent on stifling discussion

~Memeo

[VA-11 Hall-A]

And the SCUMMIEST POST IN THE GAME AWARD GOES TO.....

HOLY FUCK HE JUST

@Townblock,

Since Dwlee and your other head don't seem to be playing, can you give a reads list of just your thoughts?

~Titus

Creature - kind of lurking it out and throwing a vote down on my wagon. don't like that
DrippingGoofball - don't like the way she handled the claiming and neo situation
PeregrineV - not enough content
VA-11 Hall-A (Dunnstral / Zachstralkita) - most scummy of all "active" posters. "oh a joat has a rb ability = roleblocker something something setup spec something something scumslip something something" "oh no we're not scum because we slipped" "hey you're scum because you slipped" and a lot more where that came from
serrapaladin - I think he's town
Skybird - would lynch 7/10
hebichan - no read
Narna - don't like this slot
Varsoon - probably town at this point in time
Egg - looks okay-ish to me. don't really like his elyse roleblock, and maybe scum by poe
Aeronaut - post moar pls
Transcend - yeah this is town
boring - lots of sheeping. not a lot of original thoughts. got a little better with recent posts. not sure what to think about it atm. does anyone here have more experience with boring?
Seraphim - I'd lynch this so hard
Drixx - not sure leaning town

iraonavp - pretty sure this is just caught scum

Elyse - town
Cookie Bakers (Titus / Shiro) - townlean
Map Wolf - not enough of the postings yet
Lapsa - trolly scum or trolly town? only time will tell.
Foxbird - no content
Boem_u_dusi - won't discard this as scum, getting more likely by the minute
Almost50 - null leading town
Skelda - I think this is scum

long_island_medium - I don't like the WKing tbh. can ira check this next night

Gollum - claimed miller, but predecessor didn't. no opinion
Thor665 - null
Shaziro - I like this guy
Mathblade - town

@valhalla why did you voyeur bacde

please lynch this shit oh my god

- Zach

oh no, I am telling a scum with a confirmed role to investigate a scumspect? how could I? if they're on different teams, I'm sure ira wants to catch other scum too. and if they're on the same team, then when ira says he got a negative on lim and lim flips scum, he's screwed. all of this is moot because lim fakeclaimed vanilla in the first place and later retracted it

Oh I see your point now. Dudes just let me be spicy and scum lean

Zach

your slot in peace.

Valhalla - I hate hydras backpedaling on each other. They are generating a lot of discussion for town though, quality bartending.

How are you gonna scumlean Zach, anyway? I'm probably the obvtowniest person here.

why are you so intent on stifling discussion

~Memeo

- Zach

[Elyse]

I've looked at Seraphim's ISO and there's not much there. I'm going to start today off there.

VOTE: Seraphim

Ok what is this

You completely ignore discussion on TownBlock's slip and what's actually happening and vote a lurker instead.

Scum

[Elyse]

Comparing Realities is dead.
There are the same number of kills.

I have a result. So did my watcher.

Scum wouldn't try without ninja unless boem is scum.

This.

Drixx claiming he protected CB and that's why they're alive when there were the same number of kills doesn't match up

[Shaziro]

Titus, how do I go about doing that without breaking rules regarding quoting stuff like PMs, hoods, etc?

What I recieved, paraphrasing, was "did a Neapolitan action"

[Shaziro]

@mod can you please either confirm or deny if you are running follower in exactly the way the wiki describes?

Per the Wiki, the Follower learns what action a player performed, but not who that player targeted.

Learns -what- action, not what -type- of action. There you go.

Glad Math chose to out that, yes, I am odd night. Totally not information I was keeping scum from knowing. Fucking incredible.

[Elyse]

Opinions on Skybird

Go

I WANT SKYBIRD DEAD

[VA-11 Hall-A]

@mod can you please either confirm or deny if you are running follower in exactly the way the wiki describes?

Per the Wiki, the Follower learns what action a player performed, but not who that player targeted.

Learns -what- action, not what -type- of action. There you go.

Glad Math chose to out that, yes, I am odd night. Totally not information I was keeping scum from knowing. Fucking incredible.

That's not how a follower works as described in the wiki
Looks like you've misunderstood your fake claim

VOTE: Shaziro

Willing to get Shaziro over townblock as it looks like Shaziro slipped and is just 100% mafia
If a vig were to target a claimed roleblocker that would be SWELL

Also Long island medium is town you apes

-Dunn

[Elyse]

Like

What legit

Is the slip

The slip is supposed to be Memeo (one of the heads of the hydra) forgetting where they did their action. I honestly think it's a stupid wagon.

Plus his reaction to it was terrible.

[Shaziro]

Look, if it takes you lynching me to decide if this thing is bastard then fine, go for it.

VOTE: Shaziro

I'm effectively dead tonight by scum anyhow.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

Look, if it takes you lynching me to decide if this thing is bastard then fine, go for it.

VOTE: Shaziro

I'm effectively dead tonight by scum anyhow.

>reaction to "blue scum" voting him

Don't give in to the l-15 ate that doesn't even line up with what he's saying

[VA-11 Hall-A]

-Dunn

[Shaziro]

Let me add a thing. When I flip town, lynch VA-11 Hall-A for me. You'll be better off for it. TIA.

[Shaziro]

Like this is the same shit that happened when I was getting strung up in that offsite game I played with him. I was town, he was scum then too.

[Transcend]

Opinions on Skybird

Go

I WANT SKYBIRD DEAD

HEY ME TOO

But apparently she town told in a neighborhood of which only two (2) people can see.

Don't lynch Shaz, the fuck you doing?

[VA-11 Hall-A]

For the record, I still want TownBlock deader than a doornail. Don't know what ol boy Dunn is doing here

Let me add a thing. When I flip town, lynch VA-11 Hall-A for me. You'll be better off for it. TIA.

lol he is right though you're L-15 or something lmfao dont cry now




- Zach

[Elyse]

VOTE: Shaziro

They messed up their role twice in my PT.

Claimed Iroanavp was a Neopolitan as a watcher.
Then claimed follower and at first that made sense as some follower variants give exact action.
But then remembered to look at rules where this was explicitly normal.

Normal only gives the type.

Ergo once is a mistake twice is liar for the fire. Work now gtg.

Type: Investigative, protective,killing etc.

Shaziro has given me cause for concern a few times in our neighborhood talk as well. If there is a blue mafia, I'm finding increasing confidence that they're it. They've been poking and prodding at Vallhalla pretty much the whole game too. That latching onto the "blue tell" thing seemed icky and opportunistic, too. I don't know if we're allowed to post direct quotes from neighborhood, but maybe others in the 'hood will chime in on this one.

VOTE: Shaziro

boring is red mafia

[RachMarie]

Dunn i love ya dude but how in the he double hockey sticks can you say medium is town?

He basically said he only wants to lynch blue not red

uggh we need both teams to flip

[Elyse]

My initial suspicion on townblock was that McMenno just wasn't paying much attention to the game and didn't keep track of what the others had done well. But when he then goes and scumreads iraon and then expects him to use his role as if he were town...that's just faking reads.

Mhmmhm

Also Shaziro is town GET OFF HIM