Micro 635 - 09:12 (Game Over)

[Vedith]

I really want to lynch Vedith now. VOTE: Vedith I'll nominate y'all for best town performance after we lynch both scum days 1 and 2, okay?

Regardless of what happens, I'm sure Accountant is scum.

[GuiltyLion]

Scumlean

I initially read him as idiot/ego town but I think it's very likely a persona or smokescreen

What makes you think it's faked? What posts of Vedith's explicitly changed your read in the way you described here?

[GuiltyLion]

I don't want to lynch Vedith and I also don't think Vedith flipping town would confirm ASP as town

[Vedith]

I don't want to lynch Vedith and I also don't think Vedith flipping town would confirm ASP as town

Don't doubt my reads!

[Vedith]

Also, Accountant will only be voting me here because I am challenging.
The scum lean read is just to justify the move over.

[Accountant]

No, I'm voting you because of snake's point about you, which came after the scumlean post

@GL: 243. Vedith's persona is very "I'm correct, don't doubt my meta reads, sheep me and lynch scum". That playstyle doesn't tend to write up long posts justifying themselves - I'd have expected town Vedith to go "lynch accountant, asp is conftown lol everyone who doesn't see this is blind". It doesn't jive with the rest of his persona, and that's why I see it as fake.

[Vedith]

@GL: 243. Vedith's persona is very "I'm correct, don't doubt my meta reads, sheep me and lynch scum". That playstyle doesn't tend to write up long posts justifying themselves - I'd have expected town Vedith to go "lynch accountant, asp is conftown lol everyone who doesn't see this is blind". It doesn't jive with the rest of his persona, and that's why I see it as fake.

Accountant knows that I play like this - More proof that Accountant is scum!

[Accountant]

@GL: 243. Vedith's persona is very "I'm correct, don't doubt my meta reads, sheep me and lynch scum". That playstyle doesn't tend to write up long posts justifying themselves - I'd have expected town Vedith to go "lynch accountant, asp is conftown lol everyone who doesn't see this is blind". It doesn't jive with the rest of his persona, and that's why I see it as fake.

Accountant knows that I play like this - More proof that Accountant is scum!

what are you even trying to say here?

[Vedith]

what are you even trying to say here?

Let me get my crayons out, to explain better!

Spoiler: Accountant read

[Accountant]

Don't be a condescending dick

[Vedith]

Don't be a condescending dick

[eagerSnake]

I have proof of both Vedith and ASP being VT and Vedith lynched ASP D1

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7165792

[Vedith]

I have proof of both Vedith and ASP being VT and Vedith lynched ASP D1

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7165792

That was my first non newbie game on the site. Is this all you have?

[BTD6_maker]

Out of {Vedith, 0x40, ASP} I'm fairly sure there are two scum in here. For example, if Vedith is scum it seems likely that he is trying to defend his partner and appear as though he hates both wagons. If Vedith is scum, one of the other two probably is as well.

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Vedith

[BTD6_maker]

VOTE: Vedith

It seems that Vedith's flip will give more information than 0x40's or ASP's. They are all roughly equally scummy, but Vedith's flip will tell us more than either 0x40's or ASP's.

[Vedith]

Out of {Vedith, 0x40, ASP} I'm fairly sure there are two scum in here. For example, if Vedith is scum it seems likely that he is trying to defend his partner and appear as though he hates both wagons. If Vedith is scum, one of the other two probably is as well.

And if I'm town?

[GuiltyLion]

I don't see any scum motivation for Vedith to enter the thread like he did unless both 0x40 and ASP are town

If one of them were his partner he could easily just push on the other one

[GuiltyLion]

Also, Accountant will only be voting me here because I am challenging.
The scum lean read is just to justify the move over.

No, I'm voting you because of snake's point about you

, which came after the scumlean post

Was this referring to this post:

I feel like if I lynch Vedith then a few things come out of it if he's scum:
1) We lynched a scum
2) Accountant is conftown by association to Vedith!scum
3) Guarantee that either ASP or 0x40 is scum by association to Vedith!scum therefore we win the game

And a few things come out if he's town:
1) Lose a townie
2) Accountant is probscum
3) ASP is conftown by Vediths foolproof metaread and by association to accountant!scum
4) 0x40 is conftown by association to accountant!scum
5) other scum is in: BTD, Umlaut, GL, Lycan

I'm very curious if ASP has the same foolproof metaread on Vedith as Vedith claims on ASP

And also if ASP backs up the claim that Vedith can read him like a book, and has never been wrong about his alignment (unless it furthered his wincon)

?

[BTD6_maker]

Has anyone noticed how Vedith overused smilies? This is possibly a thinly-veiled attempt at AtE. (I know this for sure. I am forbidden from explaining why. Once I am allowed to explain, I will).
The only issue is whether Vedith uses AtE regularly, or only as scum.

If you want, you can ignore this post until I am allowed to explain the reason why. It's just something to consider.

[Vedith]

Has anyone noticed how Vedith overused smilies? This is possibly a thinly-veiled attempt at AtE. (I know this for sure. I am forbidden from explaining why. Once I am allowed to explain, I will).
The only issue is whether Vedith uses AtE regularly, or only as scum.

If you want, you can ignore this post until I am allowed to explain the reason why. It's just something to consider.

Using smilies is using AtE?

[eagerSnake]

Out of {Vedith, 0x40, ASP} I'm fairly sure there are two scum in here. For example, if Vedith is scum it seems likely that he is trying to defend his partner and appear as though he hates both wagons. If Vedith is scum, one of the other two probably is as well.

And if I'm town?

What was this post about

[Vedith]

What was this post about

Well he said that there are 2 scum in those 3 names, and says if I am scum then one of the others are.
Now I am saying that ASP is town 100%. So what scenario can there be 2 scum in me X40 and ASP if I flip town?

[eagerSnake]

Does it help you determine his alignment?

[eagerSnake]

Because, quite frankly, I only see the reasoning of AtE for this question, trying to subtly put doubt in his head so he will rethink voting you

I do this as scum 100%