Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Koggz]

I would like all people who can view the matrix/astral pt to claim this, please

koggz could choose to participate in either pt
instead chose to gift something special to jaereed

[karnos]

I'm in both matrix & astral, as a viewer only. I have no reason to hide the information. As a bounty hunter, I have my sources of information...

I'm also generally busy this weekend, so apologies for low activity in advance. Please take it slow re: Space Cowboy, there is no reason to rush a lynch when we have plenty of time remaining. I still he is probably scum, and I'm not unvoting at this time, but please just play smart town.

[Space Cowboy]

I believe that's L-2.

I believe this is the point where I yell at people a bit to slow down etc.

That is all.

-Cerb

Scum are trying to get a fast easy lynch soooo I do not think they will be slowing down.

~Shiro

[Yume]

I can view Astral PT.

[McMenno]

I can view Astral PT.

[karnos]

Sup McMenno.

[Klingoncelt]

..

You are a low content player. Always.

You are rarely around, and you do not post very much when you are around. Always.

These are not necessarily bad things, but they are things lurkers do. Just because you are not attempting to lurk, it does not mean that your play isn't analogous to that of lurkers.

Why are you so offended by someone choosing to use a shorthand for describing your play style?

-Cerb

Yes, I'm always a low-content player.

Deal.

It's better that I keep my low content limited to a few sentences in a few posts as opposed to wallposts of fluff, no?

But that's not what MathBlade said.

She said I lurk. Lurk means hang around and not do anything.

I don't do that.

I'll often log into a game and then have a shit-ton of meatworld things to do, so it takes me hours to go through a few pages.

But that's not lurking.

Sometimes I can come in, read through, make my post(s) and split.

That's not lurking.

I don't lurk. I don't have time to lurk.

It doesn't matter what your opinion is: what matters is mine. I absolutely do not agree with you on it. To me a low content poster is a lurker. There is a definition on the wiki called active lurking that sums up thoughts nicely. It is the amount of content that is provided to where I define a lurker.

Therefore until you do stuff like you are now, I will always consider you a lurker. To quote you: "Deal."

The question becomes why does how I perceive you bother you so much?

Because your personal opinion doesn't equal fact.

[Klingoncelt]

@dm: I don't believe it was a nonsensical comment to make either, I was merely giving an example of a reason why a post might be concerning coming from one slot while being unremarkable coming from another.

Walk me through the "no clue about cowboy". He's easily one of the slots with the most actual content to go off of.

Also, your catchup post didn't register for me at all. As in, there was nothing stated in it that made me want to ask you specific questions on the first read.
@Mathblade: Koggz is a she, and the third person thing is standard posting for her. Seconding the question about the selective mechanics discussion. Also, I already asked KC why she cared about your opinion, and she didn't bother answering.

-Cerb

Pretty sure I did answer.

[Reasonably Rational]

You responded to the post, but your response did not include a reason why you care if mathblade calls you a lurker.

-Cerb

[Klingoncelt]

Pedit: KlingonCelt as they said have many different things to do in meat world at times. I asked again specifically to see if a certain response comes up. But now that you mentioned ignoring it is invalid. *sigh*

Umm... are you wanting me to post exactly what I'm doing minute-to-minute? Won't be happening.

In a nutshell I'm doing housework, charging the electronics ahead of that tornado in Dayton that's coming my way, and finally Step-Granddaughter's nose stopped bleeding after several hours. Oh, and looking up car parts. And the Olympics.

[Klingoncelt]

You responded to the post, but your response did not include a reason why you care if mathblade calls you a lurker.

-Cerb

I care because it's a dishonest representation.

[Klingoncelt]

I have waaaaaaaaaaay too many scumreads. *Yanks hair on head*

It's better to have too many Scumreads than too many Townreads.

True story.

[Klingoncelt]

I would like all people who can view the matrix/astral pt to claim this, please

I have no access whatsoever to either of the PTs at this time.

[MathBlade]

Everyone, thoughts on likelihood of scum within those separate groupings?

-Cerb

I'd say it's safe to assume there's a scum in both groups.

koggz think this approach is flawed
unless alignment not chosen randomly

Because Koggz participate in setup spec in a small way and Koggz says they have no problem with it. Ergo Koggz likes setup spec. Koggz doesn't have to say certain words to leave an impression.

@KlingonCelt -- Neither is yours. In this case it is my perception of you and I am that arbiter. Right now you are not lurking. Before you were.

And I do not expect that no. I wanted to see how you responded to that question because IMHO you respond to pressure as town and scum as different alignments.

[MathBlade]

I would like all people who can view the matrix/astral pt to claim this, please

I have no access whatsoever to either of the PTs at this time.

Ditt to the O.

[Koggz]

Everyone, thoughts on likelihood of scum within those separate groupings?

-Cerb

I'd say it's safe to assume there's a scum in both groups.

koggz think this approach is flawed
unless alignment not chosen randomly

Because Koggz participate in setup spec in a small way and Koggz says they have no problem with it. Ergo Koggz likes setup spec. Koggz doesn't have to say certain words to leave an impression.

@KlingonCelt -- Neither is yours. In this case it is my perception of you and I am that arbiter. Right now you are not lurking. Before you were.

And I do not expect that no. I wanted to see how you responded to that question because IMHO you respond to pressure as town and scum as different alignments.

you think koggz like setup spec because koggz respond to reasonably rational question?
why the leap to assume koggz like setup spec?
why the further leap to assume koggz is selective about where koggz like it being used?

koggz neither like nor dislike setup speculation

[MathBlade]

Math thinks Koggz likes setup spec because of how they responded not because they did.

It is not a leap. If Math says they have zero problems with cheese and then is seen eating cheese, it is therefore a logical conclusion math likes cheese. Similarly you did the same. The last question Math does not follow.

[JaeReed]

Math, would you place yourself at my mercy for the opportunity to make a contract with someone D2 if they accept your conditions?

It only works if the condition is accepted after it is stated in full what the condition is, so if you hate it you can reject me... I just don't like being rejected so I'll ask first if you're willing to take a post restriction purely for my amusement. You'll probably hate the restriction but it would make me happy?

[Koggz]

Math thinks Koggz likes setup spec because of how they responded not because they did.

It is not a leap. If Math says they have zero problems with cheese and then is seen eating cheese, it is therefore a logical conclusion math likes cheese. Similarly you did the same. The last question Math does not follow.

it is more like koggz asking if you believe in god and then if you give an answer assuming you like to talk about religion

anyways
math assumptions about koggz were wrong
math explanation feels dishonest

Math wonder why koggz likes setup spec but then is selective about where they like it being used. Math wonders why Koggz is not responding to more players. This worries Math.

Math is concerned that maybe Cowboy is town lynchbait then Koggz is scum.

Any particular reason for the third person talk Koggz? Would Koggz prefer a specific pronoun?

show where koggz is selective about like and not like setup speculation
show where someone ask koggz question and koggz refuse to respond

math is in koggz scum pile right under space cowboy

[Reasonably Rational]

I want a post restriction!!! :p Everyone should read my poems in space dandy 2.

-Cerb

[WorldzMine]

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math is in koggz scum pile right under space cowboy

I agree with these two. Although, I am a bit nervous about SC's flip, because when people are this scummy looking pretty much right out the gate, they obviously really do flip town a lot. I still think he's the best vote atm and all his interactions could be a gold mine of information.

[WorldzMine]

I shouldn't of said "a lot" above but maybe they end up flipping town more than you would think they would looking so scummy.

[MathBlade]

@Koggz Math cannot show what Math did not say. Math merely stated their perceptions. Koggz has answered all questions. Again math did not imply you didn't. Math does not understand your concern.

@JaeReed Post restrictions are fun. I love doing fun things! Hell I feel honored that you would consider me. The entire point of the game is to have fun so if people have fun then I do too. Tell me more please! I am so glad Titus and Varsoon may have put in post restriction things!!

[MathBlade]

Lynched players wind up in prison, rather than killed outright. A maximum of two players may return from the game after being imprisoned. Lynched players do not flip until no one can be released from prison anymore. There may or may not be mechanics that allow people to communicate with those in prison. When no one can escape or be released from prison anymore, all players in prison will flip and will die. All flips are confirmed accurate (no actresses/tricksters, death millers, godfathers, etc).

^^ Lynched players do not flip WorldzMine

[Reasonably Rational]

Lynched players wind up in prison, rather than killed outright. A maximum of two players may return from the game after being imprisoned. Lynched players do not flip until no one can be released from prison anymore. There may or may not be mechanics that allow people to communicate with those in prison. When no one can escape or be released from prison anymore, all players in prison will flip and will die. All flips are confirmed accurate (no actresses/tricksters, death millers, godfathers, etc).

^^ Lynched players do not flip WorldzMine

Indeed. In this game lynching for information, already a bad idea, is even less helpful than normal.

-Cerb