Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

Nero Cain · Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:45 pm

both Ira and Elyses play have been terrible but prob both town due to the way CR treated them.

I think Marias play makes some sense as town but that "Ira wouldn"t the play the way he did as scum" was pretty stupid. She's atleast shepping me so she can be town.

I'm convinced that DW is scum so that means the last scum is in

Zap Rowsdower
Wake 88
BigYoshiFan
gerryoat

I see potential scum motivation in all of them.

Gerry I could see as scum for having so few reads wich is helpful as scum. He's also mainly tunneling on BYF.

Zap is similar as he's been tunneling on Elyse most of the game. Its also somewhat possible the CR tells Elyse to stop tunneling her budyy.

Wake is a lurksack that's done nothing but ask the mod useless questions and complain about how busy he is.

And I just don't remember anything Yoshi has done that was useful.

If I had to put those 4 in order it would be Wake, Gerry, Yoshi, Zap. But hey! 25% chance we win this game tomorrow.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:50 pm

In post 1825, Nero Cain wrote:Zap is similar as he's been tunneling on Elyse most of the game. Its also somewhat possible the CR tells Elyse to stop tunneling her budyy.

Also add in stuff about his CR hammer being fake sounding.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:08 pm

In post 1636, gerryoat wrote:Do you really think I'd hard defend a traitor if I was mafia if so, for what reason?

You wouldn't know but scum defending town for town cred is a thing and I don't think its in the realms of impossibility that you'd hard defend CR knowing he wasn't on your team.

In post 1818, MariaR wrote:No one is even close to hammer what are your reads right now Wake

You should have told him to "hammer" DW just to see if he'd vote DW. Both Zap and Yoshi dancing around voting Yoshi is p scummy. I mighta changed my mind and decided that the last scum is between those two since I feel a 1/2/10 setup is more balanced than a 1/3/9.

MariaR · Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:16 pm

I'm mobile so I'll address all of this tomorrow but I will say the

"Maria is waving me off" thing is quite true because everyone else has pinged scum more then Nero and I don't see a lot of teams that make sense with him maybe Elyse and him or wake and him but I can see wake with everyone

Scum is still zap and Gerry btw

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:32 pm

Nero, weren't you in the game where I "scum slipped" as town?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:12 pm

I don't think so.

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:05 pm

In post 1824, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1821, Zap Rowsdower wrote:I pretty much finished Nero's ISO and all I got out of it was "meh, he could be scum." I think there might have been some specific things but I'm not looking at my notes right now.

Da ba Dee da ba die
ya you have nothing son.

Why were you waiting for me to post about this anyway?

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:07 pm

And yeah there's not really much in Nero's ISO worth exploring right now IMO. I think Yoshi's the best lynch today.

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:09 pm

I'd like to hear the people voting Dw explain the reasoning behind his two gambits. The one at the beginning of the game with the fake result on Elyse and the one yesterday with the fake result on ira.

gerryoat · Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:25 pm

In post 1828, MariaR wrote:Scum is still zap and Gerry btw

Say you somehow lynch me, and I flip town. Then what? Who is mafia in?

MariaR · Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:17 am

In post 1834, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1828, MariaR wrote:Scum is still zap and Gerry btw
Say you somehow lynch me, and I flip town. Then what? Who is mafia in?

Oh I like this game!

Prob Zap/Wake would be my next guess!

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:53 am

In post 1826, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1825, Nero Cain wrote:Zap is similar as he's been tunneling on Elyse most of the game. Its also somewhat possible the CR tells Elyse to stop tunneling her budyy.
Also add in stuff about his CR hammer being fake sounding.

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw his hammer.

MariaR · Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:15 am

Why when I comment on the fake hammer no one bats an eye when someone else does "OMG YOU'RE RIGHT."

.... I see I'm not needed

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:38 am

In post 1830, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think so.

You def were. It was game shop mafia, you were a role cop who got mislynched day two when RC cc'd you.
I gave towncred to wickedjestr for being the first on a wagon before it had flipped scum when I was town. Scum slips are stupid and the thing you are pushing as a slip isnt one.

Elyse · Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:31 am

In post 1833, Zap Rowsdower wrote:I'd like to hear the people voting Dw explain the reasoning behind his two gambits. The one at the beginning of the game with the fake result on Elyse and the one yesterday with the fake result on ira.

Dw himself said he does reaction tests all the time. I don't think it's an alignment indicative thing at all.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:52 am

My reaction tests this game did do things though.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:54 am

blackstar's death was fishy.

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:10 am

In post 1840, Dwlee99 wrote:My reaction tests this game did do things though.

I find myself unsure about this when thinking about your second gambit though, with the fake guilty on ira. You said you wanted to get him lynched, right? So was it not a reaction test?

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:14 am

In post 1795, BigYoshiFan wrote:I wanted both of you lynched before the day started and before you guys started tunneling me so interpret that however you want.

So you wanted us lynched before the day started, OK. Except that your reasoning for wanting us lynched is this:

In post 1779, BigYoshiFan wrote:I'm down for the lynch of either Gerryoat or Zap, and it's not because they want me dead (well kinda, obviously), but
because they are both focusing on me and only me, making no reads on anyone else or considering the scumread of another.

And yesterday I pretty much just focused on Elyse. So why did you say that the reason you want me lynched is because I'm "focusing on you and only you"?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:36 am

it wasn't one but it turned into it when people wouldn't lynch ira >_>

Elyse · Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:43 am

Anyone would be hesitant to lynch a guilty that was claimed halfway into the day when you voted other people. That has no bearing on ira's alignment and you would realize this if you're actually town trying to do a reaction test.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:44 am

not on ira's but on zap's and maria's

Zap Rowsdower · Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:57 am

So then you were kinda contradicting what you said in that discussion thread I quoted, no? The one where you said you would never fakeclaim a guilty?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:12 am

tell me when that was posted

Nero Cain · Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:24 am

In post 1831, Zap Rowsdower wrote:
In post 1824, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1821, Zap Rowsdower wrote:I pretty much finished Nero's ISO and all I got out of it was "meh, he could be scum." I think there might have been some specific things but I'm not looking at my notes right now.

Da ba Dee da ba die
ya you have nothing son.
Why were you waiting for me to post about this anyway?

just was interested in what you'd come up with.

In post 1833, Zap Rowsdower wrote:I'd like to hear the people voting Dw explain the reasoning behind his two gambits. The one at the beginning of the game with the fake result on Elyse and the one yesterday with the fake result on ira.

I will reply to your question with a question. Do you think DW's "reaction" tests are townie?