Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

[MariaR]

Nero i'm gonna ask this once.

Are you srsly cop with a guilty on DW

If the answer is yes I am voting DW and keeping it there

[Nero Cain]

fine. grrrr but DW should still be the lynch today.

I mean, if you think Zap is scum you have to think DW is scum b/c he's defending the fuck out of him though he's just going to claim that he stopped town reading DW and is now suspicious of him wich I think is

[Dwlee99]

zap could still be whiteknighting me
r u retracting the guilty or are u going down after me

[MariaR]

fine. grrrr but DW should still be the lynch today.

I mean, if you think Zap is scum you have to think DW is scum b/c he's defending the fuck out of him though he's just going to claim that he stopped town reading DW and is now suspicious of him wich I think is

We both think Zap is scum but we disagree on the partner see the problem?

[Zap Rowsdower]

Nero's making fun of me for thinking Dw might be town because of his fake guilties. He's not serious for the same reason(s) Dw wasn't serious before.

[Nero Cain]

lol @ Zap trying to write me off.

[MariaR]

@Mod can you colors Ross's death color to green it confuses the fk out of me when I go back to look

Does anyone not voting Zap have any good reasons to not vote him I think take any into account besides Gerry who needs to eat Rope

[Zap Rowsdower]

I've noticed it never takes long for me to start getting pissed off at this crew. Stepping away for a bit.

[Nero Cain]

yes, no, maybe, idk.

Like, ok lets look at the facts.

• CR flipped scum traitor.
  
  He knew who scum were.
  
  CR tunneled Ira
  
  CR told Elyse that her tunnel on Zap was conf bias

My analyse of what happened is that Ira is very likely town since scum tunneled him

AND

that Elyse is very likely town since I have a hard time seeing scum that knows Elyse is scum tell her that her Zap read is wrong. The obvious question here is "was CR telling Elyse that her Zap read was wrong b/c they are both town or Zap is scum?"

I just feel strongly that DW knew me vs. Ira was TvT and was setting up a chain lynch between the two of us and his voting history today is just a pile of wank. I don't think thats town play, I just don't.

I mean if we are right on it being a Zap/DW team then it really doesn't matter that much who we vote today I am just much more confident on DW but I could see a DW/Zap team.

Also Zap and Gerry are on the same wagon so it makes a little sense to me that both aren't scum.

[MariaR]

I just don't see why !scum Dw would still push a lynch on someone who is almost townread by EVERYONE instead of jumping on a BYI/Gerry/Zap BW

[Nero Cain]

image that DW is scum and he hopped onto the growing BYF wagon...what would you think?

[Dwlee99]

My analyse of what happened is that Ira is very likely town since scum tunneled him

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=65809
^ me tunneling a partner
@Nero

[MariaR]

I refuse to answer that question due to reasons.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: elyse

[Nero Cain]

fair enough but I think he's scum and voting ppl that are very likely to be town and I don't think thats town play. He may be trying to fake a derp tell here and I'm sad you fell for it.

If Zap flips town who is scum?

[MariaR]

fair enough but I think he's scum and voting ppl that are very likely to be town and I don't think thats town play. He may be trying to fake a derp tell here and I'm sad you fell for it.

If Zap flips town who is scum?

Gerry and 1 of DW/Wake

[Nero Cain]

I am never going to get you to vote DW. Scum has won this game. Thanks Maria.

[MariaR]

The 1 tr I'm shakey on to BYF cause I have him at like "He's so scummy he CAN'T be mafia." (that was the case with ira for a long time but the CR flip makes him obv town)

@Nero i'm voting DW if I can't get Zap/Gerry lynched.

[MariaR]

Don't try to guilt trip me you ass

[Nero Cain]

My analyse of what happened is that Ira is very likely town since scum tunneled him

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=65809
^ me tunneling a partner
@Nero

there is also a HUGE fucking difference between scum tunneling scum that know each other and won't nk each other and a traitor tunneling scum that doesn't know he's scum but nice try to fit a square peg in a round whole.

[Dwlee99]

fair enough but I think he's scum and voting ppl that are very likely to be town and I don't think thats town play. He may be trying to fake a derp tell here and I'm sad you fell for it.

If Zap flips town who is scum?

I'm just gonna quote this if I'm right post-game

[Dwlee99]

wake is a decent vote if anyone wants to join me there as well

[MariaR]

Dw answer me this please: Why are you trying to lynch Ira when that was the ONLY person CR pushed on the whole game?

I've been reconsidering but I've tunneled partners the whole game before.

If we assume Ira was scum and this was the case and CR got Ira lynched wouldn't you think that makes CR the prime NK there leaving scum with only 1 mafia I doubt anyone with half a brain would risk that

To add onto that the last scum wouldn't even get the credit for pushing Ira so that makes it even worse.

Thoughts DW?

[Dwlee99]

Dw answer me this please: Why are you trying to lynch Ira when that was the ONLY person CR pushed on the whole game?

I've been reconsidering but I've tunneled partners the whole game before.

If we assume Ira was scum and this was the case and CR got Ira lynched wouldn't you think that makes CR the prime NK there leaving scum with only 1 mafia I doubt anyone with half a brain would risk that

Scum probably have some sort of way to detect the traitor like a cop. Even if they don't they could think "Why was CR

so

sure ira was scum. Not to mention that CR wasn't really even pushing ira iirc.

[Dwlee99]

The only game I've played with a traitor iirc had a mafia cop.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64645