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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:09 am

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In post 197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 190, Radja wrote:
In post 189, Killthestory wrote:four people

uh

no
same people + yourself.
gg.
I will not accept this.

same people + mykonian.
In post 199, Klick wrote:I'd rather fail KTS's mission and go with Ircher as the fourth.

No
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:32 am

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In post 200, Radja wrote:
In post 197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 190, Radja wrote:
In post 189, Killthestory wrote:four people

uh

no
same people + yourself.
gg.
I will not accept this.

same people + mykonian.
In post 199, Klick wrote:I'd rather fail KTS's mission and go with Ircher as the fourth.

No
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:39 am

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kts over ircher for me as well.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:50 am

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In post 201, Klick wrote:
In post 200, Radja wrote:
In post 197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 190, Radja wrote:
In post 189, Killthestory wrote:four people

uh

no
same people + yourself.
gg.
I will not accept this.

same people + mykonian.
In post 199, Klick wrote:I'd rather fail KTS's mission and go with Ircher as the fourth.

No
Why
They are scum?
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:30 am

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Well duh, you not wanting them on the next mission implies you think they're scum

I'm looking for some more detail here
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:35 am

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I've explained my reads before. I don't see much reason to change them.

Why do you scumread KTS?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:00 am

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In post 205, Radja wrote:I've explained my reads before.
"explained" is generous here.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:08 am

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granted.

I am not that sure anymore either. I'm just sticking to them as I think my gut is usually good on stuff like this.

Townpool: Something Smart, KilltheStory, Elekitu, N,

Middle pool: Klick, Faalcon, randomidget

Scumpool: mykonian, Ircher
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:41 am

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boringggggggggggg
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:52 am

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In post 205, Radja wrote:I've explained my reads before. I don't see much reason to change them.

Why do you scumread KTS?
Your explanation was "gut," and you admit yourself that you no longer have much confidence in your reads.

I wouldn't necessarily say I scumread KTS much at this point, but I certainly don't townread him and because of that would not like him on the mission. I want a townread to be the fourth member so that the chances of the mission being all-town are as high as possible.

SS, has your read on KTS changed recently?
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:52 am

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hey fuck you klick being towny is boring you boring person
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:58 am

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Sorry friend

Also @SS, ignore my question, I reread the last page and you basically answered that already
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:59 am

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thanks man
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:00 am

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Any time bro
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:08 am

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TIME FOR A WALLPOST WHERE I ATTEMPT TO SOLVE THE GAME AND HOPEFULLY DON'T FAIL EPICALLY :roll:

So, first of all, I think we are mostly in agreement that the mission that passed was all-town. I believe that any spy on that mission, where none of the members were very deeply discussed, would have failed it.

That's three town. Looking at things from an objective perspective, that means there are three more town.

Now, regardless of what anyone else says, the slam failure of Radja's mission indicates to me that there was not exactly one spy on it. Suppose there were no spies on it. That would leave a spy team of:

<Ircher, randomidget, mykonian, N>

which makes no sense given the enormous amount of interaction between Ircher, mykonian and N early game.

Now suppose there were two spies on it. (Something I now believe.) Of course from my perspective those two spies are Radja and Killthestory, but even assuming they weren't, this leaves two spies and two town in the same group. Now, look at the interactions between me and Killthestory following the first mission proposal. I think they are pretty obviously not partner-partner interactions. This leaves Radja as confirmed scum in this scenario.

Now that we are in the perspective of Radja as scum, let's look at his reads.
Townpool: Something Smart, KilltheStory, Elekitu, N,

Middle pool: Klick, Faalcon, randomidget

Scumpool: mykonian, Ircher
Radja has three spy partners that he has to hide in these reads. As stated before, I believe Klick and Faalcon to be town. Therefore, since it's very logical that he would put one buddy in his null pool ("middle pool"), randomidget is probably scum. He also expressed distaste with a team containing mykonian or Ircher, as opposed to just passively scumreading them (and he hasn't really pushed them as scum at all), which suggests even more strongly that mission 1 was all town and that these players are also both town. (This is all backed up by my individual reads, giving me more confidence.)

In Radja's townpool are four players, one of whom (Elekitu) has already been presumed town. Of the other three, I think objectively that considering a Radja/Killthestory/Something_Smart spy team is ridiculous, leaving N as spy.

The last part I can't really do objectively, but I can point to how Killthestory defended N early on as well as how Radja suggested Killthestory add himself to the successful mission. However, I'm okay with not being picked for this reason.

So I know this depends on a crap-ton of assumptions, but this is the scenario I find most likely. (And if anybody wants to challenge any of my assumptions and has a logical reason as to why, go ahead.)

Therefore, I support the mission with the addition of Ircher or mykonian (or myself, though I don't expect that nor require it for my strategy to be successful).
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:11 am

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what the fuck are you talking about
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:34 am

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KTS for president
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:35 pm

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I don't really agree with your reasoning myself, SS. Or at least, I feel like a large majority of it relies on knowing you're Resistance/having your opinions on certain things. I agree with the conclusion though, which is a team of Klick/Elekitu/Faalcon/{Ircher or myko}.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:48 pm

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In post 214, Something_Smart wrote:So, first of all, I think we are mostly in agreement that the mission that passed was all-town.
I disagree and stopped reading here.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:50 pm

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I still suspect Faalcon, and would still reject a team with him in it.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:04 pm

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It's ideal for us to send the same team + one more person.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:27 pm

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In post 217, Klick wrote:I don't really agree with your reasoning myself, SS. Or at least, I feel like a large majority of it relies on knowing you're Resistance/having your opinions on certain things. I agree with the conclusion though, which is a team of Klick/Elekitu/Faalcon/{Ircher or myko}.
I liked SS's post.

And I agree we should send the same people again.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:30 pm

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In post 187, JDGA wrote:The votes are in, and the result is...

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Yes:

Radja
Faalcon
Ircher
randomidget
Something_Smart
Elekitu
Klick

No:

killthestory
mykonian
N


By a vote of 7-3, the team has been ACCEPTED. The three of you must now proceed on the first operation, the goal being to capture an Imperial military base to weaken the Empire's presence, as well as use its resources to improve on your own capabilities. Faalcon, Elekitu, Klick, in order to succeed in this operation all three of you must PASS it. As such, you have (expired on 2016-08-24 05:30:00) to send whether you will PASS or FAIL the operation.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:56 pm

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then youre bad?
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:08 am

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In post 223, Killthestory wrote:then youre bad?
I guess.
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