Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[RachMarie]

6 votes so far

[Cookie Bakers]

My money is on red Thor based on his first post.

[Cookie Bakers]

Okay, we need a town roleblock claim too.

No we don't.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Okay, we need a town roleblock claim too.

No we don't.

But if we don't have a town roleblock then DGB will get an extra kill. We have to make sure.

[Cookie Bakers]

Okay, we need a town roleblock claim too.

No we don't.

But if we don't have a town roleblock then DGB will get an extra kill. We have to make sure.

That extra kill tells us no town blockers, foreclosing many scum fakeclaims.

[RachMarie]

does this mean we have wiped out the reds? or is there still one more

[Vedith]

That extra kill tells us no town blockers, foreclosing many scum fakeclaims.

And what if DGB doesn't kill to give out false information?

[Cookie Bakers]

@RM/Shaz/Klingon, Who should I check?

Also Math is almost practically confirmed not red.

[Lapsa]

That extra kill tells us no town blockers, foreclosing many scum fakeclaims.

unsure if that's worth it

[Cookie Bakers]

does this mean we have wiped out the reds? or is there still one more

Mod will tell us.

[Cookie Bakers]

That extra kill tells us no town blockers, foreclosing many scum fakeclaims.

And what if DGB doesn't kill to give out false information?

And scum have to waste an investigation on DGB just to fakeclaim RB.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I don't know, I want to eliminate anti-town faction today if possible.

[Wake1]

Official Vote Count

5.01

Thor665

(6): Cookie Bakers, Skelda, Boem_u_dusi, Shaziro, RachMarie, Lapsa

hebichan

(1): serrapaladin

Drixx

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(15): Vedith, MathBlade, Klingoncelt, Almost50, hebichan, Narna, Gollum, Thor665, DrippingGoofball, PeregrineV, iraonavp, Varsoon, boring, Elyse, Drixx

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-09-07 10:00:00)

[Wake1]

Please make sure the Counter catches your votes.

[RachMarie]

Cookie can I have a pere for 500 please

Dude is really lurking something fierce and that usually means scum pere

[Vedith]

VOTE: Thor665

So explain the plan on DGB again. When are we lynching her?

[RachMarie]

tomorrow she gets rope

[Vedith]

tomorrow she gets rope

That's fine by me then.

[Drixx]

Oh hey ... someone finally woke Wake. *grumbles about being up late waiting for the game to open*.

Why the hell wouldn't ninja scum shoot Drixx?

I mean we keep getting guilties and that's insane. Yet, zero effort to shoot Drixx...by either team? They could have blocked boem and shot Drixx?

And here comes the "Why isn't the doc dead?" speculation. I posit two probable reasons:

1.) I literally told a hood where I am sure at least one of them is scum that the best play is to leave me alive and let town paranoia result in a lynch on me when I don't turn up dead. Someone's playing straight out of my playbook.

2.) Doctors have to identify the most likely kill targets, and in this game I have only one apparent success, since people seem to believe Lapsa is town, for no strong reasons that I can see. If Lapsa ends up being scum, then I probably have two saves which literally makes my net contribution thus far like 1/2 of a mislynch at the steady 3-4 KPN. I need to get another save or two to actually have a role utility at all. Why kill me unless I start getting preternaturally good at predicting the deaths? Further, I now have really obvious save targets in Boem and CB, which leaves it pretty easy to shoot around my save unless I move off them.

For the record, I've been on Boem the last two nights and since all nights except one had 4 KPN, it seems somewhat reasonable to assume I saved him. Can't be sure till we see the post game mess of actions though.

Im beginning to have serious doubts about thor

Math I go back and forth on

Boem I think he is kosher

Heb really has not been active would be a good vig shot

I believe drixx's doc claim unless you can show me otherwise

I don't doubt their roles. I doubt why they have not been shot.

If they are scum, they are scum variants of roles.

Given MP's flip, Boem can really only be blue.

Titus is the master of getting towns to implode when they are in strong position ... and is now casting doubt on people she has been expressing trust about.

Titus is elsewhere complaining about having 3 caught scum, but feels the need to move Boem and/or myself out of probtown and into questionable territory because...?

Starting to make me paranoid Titus.

Most likely explanation is that DGB is SK after all and in that case we should lynch her in order to reduce anti-town killpower.

We should roleblock DGB. This would confirm a town blocker. Then vig them.

If we think DGB is the SK (and the crisscross of info seems to back up that premise), why not kill her today and ensure beyond any doubt that the KPN goes down by one? There are a myriad of modifiers she might have if she's II, given how big and complex this game is and how hard an SK wincon would be. SKs in games like this can be absurdly powerful, and even supposing we have a town roleblocker (who isn't speaking up) ... that might not stop her killing tonight.

In what universe does it make sense to put a roleblock on the person most likely to have some combination of abilities that could bypass that, given how SKs in large complex normals are given extra utility to have a better chance to make it through? There's a very small possible utility in that someone could confirm they can roleblock ... but that wouldn't hand us a townie presuming it works and DGB is indeed SK. We would simply know that person can roleblock.

There's a larger possibility space where that plan ends up with another dead townie tonight. Furthermore, it's almost a

GIVEN

that SK will have some level of kill protection, so a vig shot on them is probably a waste. They need to be lynched.

And Titus you are smart enough to realize these things, so why on EARTH are you advancing a bad plan?

I am tempted to just outright state my guilty given we're finding scum faster than we can kill them.

There was no point at all in being coy about someone who is actively posting elsewhere but not in this game.

@RM/Shaz/Klingon, Who should I check?

Also Math is almost practically confirmed not red.

Not that you asked me, but if you can get anything useful out of checking my neighborhood you should. I have no idea why anyone has given serrapaladin a town read, for example. And your paranoia of me earlier suggests perhaps you should check me. It will only tell you what is as obvious as the nose on my face: I'm a town doctor/neighbor. I'll come up with no gun because I have to carry a lot of medical equipment in my bag to save people. Believe me... if I could fit a gun in there, that would make life easy. Imagine a doctor who both saves the target and kills the culprit. Yeah ... that would be RAD!

[Drixx]

tomorrow she gets rope

tomorrow she gets rope

That's fine by me then.

Sub-par plan is still sub-par, no matter how many town reads sheep it.

[Drixx]

Official Vote Count

5.01

Thor665

(6): Cookie Bakers, Skelda, Boem_u_dusi, Shaziro, RachMarie, Lapsa

hebichan

(1): serrapaladin

Drixx

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(15): Vedith, MathBlade, Klingoncelt, Almost50, hebichan, Narna, Gollum, Thor665, DrippingGoofball, PeregrineV, iraonavp, Varsoon, boring, Elyse, Drixx

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-09-07 10:00:00)

Someone's a special kind of stupid apparently. (Yes I know his vote is for DGB; if you don't understand the joke that's okay just don't get all in a huff because it's just a joke).

[Vedith]

since people seem to believe Lapsa is town, for no strong reasons that I can see.

This!

[Cookie Bakers]

@Drixx I don't think Laspa is obvtown. Yet, you're suddenly complaining about me having town implode Drixx. The sudden paranoia of my play is misplaced. I would say it's downright scummy but having you view my play as inept may keep me alive longer.

We have two dead scum blockers. Any other blocker is likely town.

We have 3 likely scum out of 6 remaining. We can only eliminate 2 this day phase. Given DGB if DGB is scum, she is SK and cannot send a buddy to the kill. We reduce KPN, get a strong town by role and eliminate two scum by night play.

If we lynch DGB, we still lose the KPN, scum can fakeclaim what they want, and we don't neutralize all 3 scum we are aware of.

[Cookie Bakers]

Also, Paranoid of me Drixx? Really?

[Creature]

VOTE: Thor665

tfw when bot thinks DGB = Drixx