Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[Cookie Bakers]

Furthermore, YOU LOVE DELAYED GUILTIES FOR SCUMHUNTING. Why would you tell me there's no point in being coy about a guilty?

[Drixx]

When you start throwing out suggestions that I'm scum ... yeah.

Also when you advance dumb plans that have obvious flaws. Like ... good job ignoring my points that DGB may not be susceptible to roleblock and almost certainly has kill protection and thus a Vig shot won't work and DGB has to be lynched.

If we're right and DGB is SK, then lynching DGB is as good as finishing off one of the scum factions, since it permanently removes an anti-town KPN, while we cannot be sure or even close to sure that any other lynch today would do that.

Your plan is flawed, and instead of adjusting, you're being stubborn. Take a step back and look at it.


P-Edit: There was no point in being coy about Thor, imo. Simply because his footprint in this game is like 5% of mine, and I've been busy so my post count isn't exactly through the roof or anything.

[Skelda]

I mean, there not being a kill isn't going to confirm a Town Roleblocker claim. There are so many things in this game that could potentially prevent kills.

[Cookie Bakers]

Ok, I will try a different approach.

You say DGB can get a kill off.
If she does, a townroleblocker claims and let's us reassess our premises.

Blocking DGB, vigging Hebi and lynching Thor is the only way I can see to contain all 3 scum.

[Skelda]

And furthermore, we have no reason to think that there even is a Town Roleblocker because clearly they didn't block DGB last night.

[Cookie Bakers]

I mean, there not being a kill isn't going to confirm a Town Roleblocker claim. There are so many things in this game that could potentially prevent kills.

Not confirm but two role blockers for scum are dead...

[Skelda]

We could block Thor, lynch DGB, and vig Hebi.

[Cookie Bakers]

We could block Thor, lynch DGB, and vig Hebi.

Thor's buddy does the kill.

[Skelda]

I mean, there not being a kill isn't going to confirm a Town Roleblocker claim. There are so many things in this game that could potentially prevent kills.

Not confirm but two role blockers for scum are dead...

No, but who's to say that a Doctor didn't save and scum didn't just pounce on the opportunity to claim Town Roleblocker? There are other ways to stop kills.

[Cookie Bakers]

I mean, there not being a kill isn't going to confirm a Town Roleblocker claim. There are so many things in this game that could potentially prevent kills.

Not confirm but two role blockers for scum are dead...

No, but who's to say that a Doctor didn't save and scum didn't just pounce on the opportunity to claim Town Roleblocker? There are other ways to stop kills.

Then they have an insanely tight narrative to follow plus with all the trackers and watchers...

[Skelda]

We could block Thor, lynch DGB, and vig Hebi.

Thor's buddy does the kill.

That's going to happen anyway.

[RachMarie]

does thor still have a buddy? we got Egg after all

[Skelda]

does thor still have a buddy? we got Egg after all

It depends on if there are 4 or 5 in each scumteam. I'd say probably one more if he's red.

[Cookie Bakers]

We could block Thor, lynch DGB, and vig Hebi.

Thor's buddy does the kill.

That's going to happen anyway.

Right. It will. But our way we can possibly lose 2 kpn.

[serrapaladin]

SKs should be pretty powerful in a game this large, so I wouldn't be surprised to have some combination of ninja/ascetic/bulletproof.

If we're confident DGB is the SK, I think we should lynch her to just remove that kill.

[Cookie Bakers]

Shiro is now scared of you too Drixx. This seems like a ploy to save Thor.

If we lynched DGB, it's vigging Thor and blocking Hebi currently.

You just are not seeming like yourself Drixx.

[Cookie Bakers]

SKs should be pretty powerful in a game this large, so I wouldn't be surprised to have some combination of ninja/ascetic/bulletproof.

If we're confident DGB is the SK, I think we should lynch her to just remove that kill.

Cannot be asectic. People got results.

[RachMarie]

yep not ascetic but I would believe both bp and investigation immune which are both normal options for the SK

Either way I want both thor and dgb dead

and hebi blocked and lets check on pere ok hows that

[serrapaladin]

Fair. I still feel like lynching her is the most secure way to get rid of the kill, since we don't know if there's a town RB/an RB would work/thor is the last of his team

[Boem_u_dusi]

Drixx makes a lot sense to me.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Shiro is now scared of you too Drixx. This seems like a ploy to save Thor.

If we lynched DGB, it's vigging Thor and blocking Hebi currently.

You just are not seeming like yourself Drixx.

Come on, there was no mention of saving Thor in this game.

[Drixx]

I mean, there not being a kill isn't going to confirm a Town Roleblocker claim. There are so many things in this game that could potentially prevent kills.

We don't exactly have

any

claims of town roleblocker atm, which sort of makes the point moot, but yes you are correct. I tried to point that out earlier when I said that even if we saw evidence of a prevented kill, and even if we could be sure it was a roleblock that did it, we still have to assume that there were only two scum RBs for that to have any bearing moving forward. I don't think it is a firm clear, even if we had a claim and could somehow confirm all the crap that would need confirming.

Ok, I will try a different approach.

You say DGB can get a kill off.
If she does, a townroleblocker claims and let's us reassess our premises.

Blocking DGB, vigging Hebi and lynching Thor is the only way I can see to contain all 3 scum.

I don't believe there's any way to contain them all that is sound, but you don't seem to want to engage with my reasoning why, so I'm not going to take a shit on the thread by trying to beat you over the head with the same sound logic over and over when you clearly don't care.

And furthermore, we have no reason to think that there even is a Town Roleblocker because clearly they didn't block DGB last night.

We have no claims and no evidence of a living town roleblocker. Thanks for making me realize I'm not crazy.

We could block Thor, lynch DGB, and vig Hebi.

Thor's buddy does the kill.

That's going to happen anyway.

Right. It will. But our way we can possibly lose 2 kpn.

Umm... no. In what universe does an SK exist in a 42 person role madness game and

NOT

have protection from vig/scum night kills? Your whole plan rests on a town roleblocker we don't appear to have somehow being able to block an SK that we have to assume has plenty of utility and may not be able to be blocked in the first place

AND

landing a vig kill on someone that, if they are indeed SK, is virtually guaranteed to be protected from it.

[Drixx]

Shiro is now scared of you too Drixx. This seems like a ploy to save Thor.

If we lynched DGB, it's vigging Thor and blocking Hebi currently.

You just are not seeming like yourself Drixx.

Come on, there was no mention of saving Thor in this game.

I've found that it's best to win one battle at a time. The first battle is to make people realize the plan to shut down and vig a probable SK isn't going to work. Once people wake up and accept that as reality, then we can figure out how to play optimally from there. The optimal play against prob SK is to lynch.

Okay... now how do we handle Thor and Hebi? Vigging one of them is a thing I

think

we can do.

But can we block anyone? Still got crickets on the town RB front.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Drixx is right about this one. If there's a town roleblocker, he/she should claim so we can block DrippingGoofball and lynch Thor. At this rate, lynching DGB is our best shot at reducing KPN.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Boem_u_dusi]

And vig shoots in hebichan/Thor tonight. I think this is the best plan.