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Genji Goon
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I have no idea why I was lynched.
Like, the mechanics cleared me from being on a scum team at least.-
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Foxbird Goon
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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vonflare doot
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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Spoiler: I'm fine. I'm totally fine.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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RachMarie HUGS ♥
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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I think you played a great game, Fox. I think we both did pretty well. We got boxed into a corner when town was refusing to start any wagons, then just threw a dart at the wall and picked you. I think if Junkrat hadn'tIn post 75, Foxbird wrote:RIP.
I'm so sorry, podo
This would have worked if I hadn't deflected towards the third party.. D:killed me, and you hadn't deflected toward the one remaining non-town, this game could have been pretty good for us. I hope they don't see through his ruse, because town's game was not fantastic, and if they buy his claim, he deserves to win.RANDOMLYeagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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This ability is interesting, but I feel like it's not accomplishing the goal it was supposed to. You saw how it played out this game, where she essentially just got to pick to be town, which means it can't really count as negative town utility, and can really offset balance.
The way I've seen this work before is a player is passive one-shot deathproof from the factional mafia kill. When that deathproof is used up, they become a mafia goon. The mafia isn't informed of the change in alignment until the next night, when the converted player is now on their team.
This way, if the player is lynched, day-vigged, killed by a serial killer, or anything else other than mafia factional kill, they just die. That way, they can't explain their role in game, because there's no way to protect themselves. A lynch is just a mislynch, and if they reveal their role to be open, their alignment could change in the future, and they don't survive into LYLO. So they are forced to play like a traitor, in case they get converted, making them strong negative town utility.
Just my two cents. It felt like this was placed in the game to help out the scum team with only two members, but that was stifled pretty immediately by D.Va basically full claiming in order to not be converted.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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vonflare doot
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Absolutely. I only realized after the fact that the mechanics could be abused in that way.In post 108, podoboq wrote: This ability is interesting, but I feel like it's not accomplishing the goal it was supposed to. You saw how it played out this game, where she essentially just got to pick to be town, which means it can't really count as negative town utility, and can really offset balance.
The way I've seen this work before is a player is passive one-shot deathproof from the factional mafia kill. When that deathproof is used up, they become a mafia goon. The mafia isn't informed of the change in alignment until the next night, when the converted player is now on their team.
This way, if the player is lynched, day-vigged, killed by a serial killer, or anything else other than mafia factional kill, they just die. That way, they can't explain their role in game, because there's no way to protect themselves. A lynch is just a mislynch, and if they reveal their role to be open, their alignment could change in the future, and they don't survive into LYLO. So they are forced to play like a traitor, in case they get converted, making them strong negative town utility.
Just my two cents. It felt like this was placed in the game to help out the scum team with only two members, but that was stifled pretty immediately by D.Va basically full claiming in order to not be converted.THIS POST IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.-
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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I have to agree with this.In post 108, podoboq wrote:This ability is interesting, but I feel like it's not accomplishing the goal it was supposed to. You saw how it played out this game, where she essentially just got to pick to be town, which means it can't really count as negative town utility, and can really offset balance.
The way I've seen this work before is a player is passive one-shot deathproof from the factional mafia kill. When that deathproof is used up, they become a mafia goon. The mafia isn't informed of the change in alignment until the next night, when the converted player is now on their team.
This way, if the player is lynched, day-vigged, killed by a serial killer, or anything else other than mafia factional kill, they just die. That way, they can't explain their role in game, because there's no way to protect themselves. A lynch is just a mislynch, and if they reveal their role to be open, their alignment could change in the future, and they don't survive into LYLO. So they are forced to play like a traitor, in case they get converted, making them strong negative town utility.
Just my two cents. It felt like this was placed in the game to help out the scum team with only two members, but that was stifled pretty immediately by D.Va basically full claiming in order to not be converted.
And since they can publicly choose, it leans towards gamethrowing.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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vonflare doot
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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Little does he know, it actually matters.In post 1179, Shadow_step wrote:Let's increase the no. of posts for no rhyme or reason.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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Foxbird Goon
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I had to double-check that it wasn't actually serra who posted that :')In post 112, podoboq wrote:
Little does he know, it actually matters.In post 1179, Shadow_step wrote:Let's increase the no. of posts for no rhyme or reason.-
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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lolIn post 112, podoboq wrote:
Little does he know, it actually matters.In post 1179, Shadow_step wrote:Let's increase the no. of posts for no rhyme or reason.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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Wake1 Jack of All Trades
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Did Tracer/ D.VA know I was Town? If so then bad play.
Also that lynch on me was fucked up. Like, horrible fucking play from Town.
There wasn't even an actually valid reason for it, but whatevs. Town this game has been kinda sucky.-
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RachMarie HUGS ♥
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Welcome to the land of the dead, WakeBRAND NEW Get to know me http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=69243
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Wake1 Jack of All Trades
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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It's a delightful mechanic, definitely!In post 118, Wake1 wrote:I would have liked to use that Junkrat SK role in a certain large game I know of...
For the future.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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Firebringer Trail Blazer
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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Purposefully playing against win condition. Accidentally playing toward it, because ending the day earlier is going to make it harder for Junkrat to get people to his mines.
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Firebringer Trail Blazer
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No one is considering Serra and why would they?
The dude day shot a scum player.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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I mean, kinda. They think he did, but I just randomly posted on his mine.In post 123, Firebringer wrote:No one is considering Serra and why would they?
The dude day shot a scum player.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"
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