The Resistance (O3P1 - Replacement Needed)

[mykonian]

yes, if it wasn't for radja SS would be solidly in my scumpool, but that interaction is so awkward that I feel I need to do something with it.

[Something_Smart]

Did anybody else see what I saw about Ircher?

[Klick]

(no, feel free to elaborate)

[Killthestory]

clearly im scum because everyone in the team where the operation was failed was scumreading me.

oh my myko, such great logic!!1!

[Ircher]

I think the spy rejected the mission because they feared they would lose out on mission 4, so they took the chance.

[Ircher]

Did anybody else see what I saw about Ircher?

No?

[Something_Smart]

Okay. Sorry if I lose the game for town by doing this, but if Ircher is town then he messed up seriously.

Ircher crumbed Resistance Leader, in this post:

I hope our first operation doesn't end in fai

l

u

r

e! An early win is crucial for us as the game gets harder as we go on.

by italicizing the letters R and L.

He then proceeded to make definitive statements on enough players' alignments to suggest that, if he were Resistance Leader, the spies were Radja, Killthestory, randomidget, and N. Note that he never made a pronouncement on randomidget's alignment; that was PoE based on his comments about other players.

Which all made sense and was consistent with the votes, play, and actions.

Until this mission.

Meaning Ircher's been yanking my chain all along.

So he is never going on another mission.

That said, I think he might have named some of his real partners. The Radja/Killthestory/N connection is definitely there (although I am very confused about why Radja and N both rejected a team with a spy on it).

But in any event, I'm going to have to start trying this game rather than sitting back, thinking I know all the scum, and trying to take the bullet for Ircher.

[Ircher]

Yes, I did crumb RL; I am quite obviously not.

[Klick]

I saw the weird italics thing but I'm dumb and didn't think anything of it XD

[mykonian]

well then, S-S sure is trying to convince me he's scum.

[Radja]

Ircher scum
Myko scum

I'm not sure about rando, so I'd rather skip him and send Elekitu, Faalcon, Klick and SS.

[Faalcon]

Elek/Klick still look clearly town to me, so I believe Ircher is the spy.
Radja/KTS I'd never send on a mission, and I'd rather not have N or randomidget in it either (just a gut feeling for N, though). I'd accept a mission with 4 people in me/Myko/Elek/Klick/S_S.

[Something_Smart]

well then, S-S sure is trying to convince me he's scum.

how can you even think I'm scum after that.

[mykonian]

If someone else needs to know, I can throw a post at that. Otherwise I don't really feel I need to explain you why you are scummy.

[JDGA]

Sent prods out, but randomidget's V/LA for another day yet.

[Something_Smart]

If someone else needs to know, I can throw a post at that. Otherwise I don't really feel I need to explain you why you are scummy.

So do you think Ircher and I are scum together, and I caught my buddy's Resistance Leader crumb and based my entire play around it? (including accepting a team that I initially would have rejected, and for which I could have easily justified a rejection)

Or do you think Ircher is somehow town who crumbed the incorrect scumteam?

[Ircher]

Elek/Klick still look clearly town to me, so I believe Ircher is the spy.
Radja/KTS I'd never send on a mission, and I'd rather not have N or randomidget in it either (just a gut feeling for N, though). I'd accept a mission with 4 people in me/Myko/Elek/Klick/S_S.

I would reject that.

I crumbed RL but I am not the RL.

[Klick]

Who in that group of people would you reject?

[Something_Smart]

why on earth did you crumb it then

[Klick]

Discussion of the RL is dangerous, spies finding the RL is literally a loss condition for resistance, and therefore I propose we stop talking about it.

[Something_Smart]

and stop crumbing it

[Ircher]

To make the spies think I'm the RL ofc.

[mykonian]

this does not sound like town having a cool strat that failed, this sounds like scum explaining how town they are.

[Something_Smart]

"cool strat" is a gross misrepresentation. I think "way to avoid losing" is more appropriate.

And what about it makes you feel that way?

[mykonian]

He's not annoyed that he's called out, he straight up starts explaining. If he were town, he'd hope the rest of the town would get it, keeping scum guessing. But when you are oblivious to what's going on, he's straight up defensive?

Doesn't make sense from town.