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Glitch · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:22 am

Read my damn post Martha. I said regardless of what role I am it only makes sense to claim VT. If I were a PR it makes no sense unless it's a last ditch effort to save myself but that screws me anyway cause I would be NK'd. VT just claims VT. Scum just claims VT cause it's safe.

I am not a PR.
I am not scum.
I am VT.

My point in saying all that in my former post was to try and understand why there is value in me claiming if everyone thinks I'm scum already.

Glitch · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:23 am

Ryan my purpose was to try and figure out your play style and pressure you into actually giving us something of substance, so I removed my vote when you started acting normally (a transition you stated yourself that you made).

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:44 am

Okay fine Glitch. You're a VT. You're the most likely gonna be lynched here. So if you're a town that is about to get lynched, Give us your scum reads and help. In that way, If you're a real VT we can use your information to lynch scum. Your goal now is to make town win by explaining your reads. Your role claim of VT isn't believable until proven by lynching you. Because you're at L-1 now.

pitoli · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:13 am

INTENT TO HAMMER. Claim, Glitch?

Cass · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:14 am

Ok, read Glitch' defense and claim. Still willing to hammer; I can wait 12 hours (tomorrow morning for me) if someone prefers that.

@pitoli: he already claimed vt, didn't you read?? FoS: Pitoli

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:17 am

In post 1354, Cass wrote:Ok, read Glitch' defense and claim. Still willing to hammer; I can wait 12 hours (tomorrow morning for me) if someone prefers that.

@pitoli: he already claimed vt, didn't you read?? FoS: Pitoli

Agreed.

pitoli · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:21 am

Oh lmao sorry hadn't refreshed the page.

Cass · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:57 am

In post 1350, Glitch wrote:Read my damn post Martha. I said regardless of what role I am it only makes sense to claim VT. If I were a PR it makes no sense unless it's a last ditch effort to save myself but that screws me anyway cause I would be NK'd. VT just claims VT. Scum just claims VT cause it's safe.

I am not a PR.
I am not scum.
I am VT.

My point in saying all that in my former post was to try and understand why there is value in me claiming if everyone thinks I'm scum already.

Wrong, Glitch, if you are a town PR, you tell the truth at this point. Or maybe part of it, if that serves some purpose, but enough to show that you have value to the town. That is, if you value the town...

You don't know that you will nightkilled, because we don't yet know what roles are in this set- up. You might have convincingly claimed cop, and then maybe a doc would have saved you, or who knows what could have happened. Either way, it would be something more helpful than town lynching you on wrong assumptions. But for now I have to assume you are not a town PR. (You might be scum PR, who can't think of a credible claim here.)

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:03 am

*waits for someone to hammer Glitch*

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:04 am

Ryan... hammer glitch...

pitoli · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:17 am

VOTE: Glitch

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:21 am

Glitch · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:28 am

@Cass - That makes sense. Sorry for being slow here, I am still learning a lot about how to play well I guess.

I don't claim or soft claim or any of whatever that is for a PR. I'm literally just a VT – and even with my post saying regardless of what I am [scum, vt, pr] I would claim vt, I'll outright just say I'm not PR or scum and am just a plain little VT. xDDD

Scum read remain Martha.
I don't like rb but I can't tell if it's just me disliking him or if it's scummy and at this point I'll let the pros figure all that out since I'm dying.

RyanK and gameplay are confusing af.

Saru, pitoli, Chuck, and Dier have a light townread.

Expedience and Cass are my top two townreads.

Who knows what BBT is.

When I flip, check out Expedience and me and the association we have. I'd be shocked if he's scum.

Glitch · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:30 am

Oh. I died. lol welp
Give me tips on how to not die next time y'all

Chuck · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:48 am

This large wagon swing makes me feel like scum were definitely in on it, even if not necessarily leading it.

I agree with Glitch however, that if he flips town, Expedience looks more town due to the claim duel thing.

That makes me suspect that either/both of RyanK and Martha Zolanski would be the scum he was a counter wagon to.

The fact that he was mostly gone during his wagon's growth is also a deciding factor in that it was a bad wagon.

It's disappointing that you guys didn't at least wait until I got back. Pushing through a wagon on the weekend is bad form even when people haven't announced V/LA.

Chuck · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:50 am

Martha hopping back-and-forth from wagon to wagon all day makes me think she's probably the most likely to be scum here.

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:51 am

In post 1364, Chuck wrote:I agree with Glitch however, that if he flips town, Expedience looks more town due to the claim duel thing.

How is that so?

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:52 am

In post 1365, Chuck wrote:Martha hopping back-and-forth from wagon to wagon all day makes me think she's probably the most likely to be scum here.

Oh it's because I investigate things and if they turned scum for me, Ofc I'll vote for them. Unlike you, Just suspecting and shits.

Martha Zolanski · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:58 am

In post 1362, Glitch wrote: Expedience and Cass are my top two townreads.

Uhh.. 1341 Anyone?

gameplay506 · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:59 am

In post 1348, RyanK wrote:
The many happenings from post 761 to post 864

An accusation was made against Glitch,
By Expedience, who decided to lynch,
The accusation was based on his defence,
About synchronized posts, for Martha and Cass.

The reason, for Glitch's vote on me,
Was brought in Gameplay, with an accusation,
Glitch's reason for vote was a bit fishy,
The reason for it, was my lack of reason.

It was fishy, because he stated,
Lack of arguments, isn't a scumread,
Thus, another argument was thrown quickly,
By five-zero-six gameplay.

Rb came in and accused gameplay,
For he thought Dierfire as scum,
But decided to vote me anyway.

Gameplay, defended himself poorly,
Because of defensiveness, which turned things terribly,
However, defensiveness isn't a scum tell,
As both factions, may react defensively.

Rb looked terrible while attacking gameplay,
As opportunism, is a very strong scum tell,
That such a strong scum read was found finally.

The conclusion, I will let you make your own,
As bias reads, shouldn't be well known.

-Ryan

I dont get this

gameplay506 · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:59 am

In post 1364, Chuck wrote:This large wagon swing makes me feel like scum were definitely in on it, even if not necessarily leading it.

I agree with Glitch however, that if he flips town, Expedience looks more town due to the claim duel thing.

That makes me suspect that either/both of RyanK and Martha Zolanski would be the scum he was a counter wagon to.

The fact that he was mostly gone during his wagon's growth is also a deciding factor in that it was a bad wagon.

It's disappointing that you guys didn't at least wait until I got back. Pushing through a wagon on the weekend is bad form even when people haven't announced V/LA.

ye say that the wagon swing looks scummy when he was hammered lol

Glitch · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:07 am

In post 1368, Martha Zolanski wrote:
In post 1362, Glitch wrote: Expedience and Cass are my top two townreads.
Uhh.. 1341 Anyone?

What about it?
My entire post was @Expedience answering his questions and then I said I was townreading him.
I've strongly felt Cass is town from the beginning.

I'm still allowed to talk until the mod closes things down right?

pitoli · Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:08 am

Might as well, yes.

Glitch · Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:12 pm

Well... There's not much more I can contribute. Everything I said was in all honesty, so... hopefully the more skilled players can use my death to come to right conclusions.

Side note: What can I do to improve my gameplay? Can y'all PM me advice after night begins or is that considered discussion of an ongoing game?

Accountant · Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:00 pm

Apologies for the delayed flip. IRL circumstances.

VC 1.39

Glitch (7)

: Expedience, rb, gameplay506, Martha Zolanski, Dierfire, BlueBloodedToffee, pitoli

Expedience (2)

: Chuck, Cass

Martha Zolanski (2)

: golden009, Glitch

BlueBloodedToffee (1)

: RyanK

Not Voting:

Saru

With 13 alive, the majority is 7.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-07 16:06:30)

A lynch has been achieved.

Glitch has been lynched. They were a

Vanilla Townie

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Night 1 has started. It will end in (expired on 2016-09-08 17:00:00).