STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Not Chara]

farside: fine. i still think OWK is scum, and i'm going to need actual reasons for them as town to be playing like this before i think to reconsider. after all my asking, i haven't received any, ao i'm highly doubtful.

Almost50 i would like to speak too more. i thought he was looking a bit better more recently, or i was possibly just feeling better about him, but all of the talk about the lie detector isn't useful. it doesn't help that he claims to have very few reads.

i think Creature is town.
Rational and grapes are the players i want to be looked at most, now.

grapes: this doesn't mean i don't want a response from you.

[grapes]

I mean until their entire scumpool flips town it's kinda tough to make a case out of that.

I thought they were scum pretty strongly early on because beeboy felt plastic and his "gut townread" on me felt awkward. But I reread the game and totally missed where he responded to my question about the mason's thing and saying "wouldn't that be a boring way to balance" felt like an off the cuff response enough to alleviate me thinking I got dodged before.


Titus didn't really have the best start either and a lot of their posts came off robotic and couldn't understand why I was catching so many scumvibes and nobody else was pushing anything but it was probably because nobody was really scumhunting seriously and it's harder for titus to get reads from fluff.

But I think once they got scumreads and started pushing shit the moonlogic came out and they started to look pretty town.

Also i think beeboy's chimed in a few times with some townreads that lacked substance but had strength. And the strenght + the stances at the time hit home for me enough.

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: farside

[kraskaesque]

Lol Titus stop pestering creature he's town

Why? I don't respond to others telling me what to do. That's DOUBLY true for my scumreads. Why should I back off creature?

Why are you onto creature to begin with? i have a gut tr on Creature bc of his entrance posts
I'm fine with you pushing the slot for more content, but I think the way you're doing it now feels more like pestering than productive pressure

[grapes]

Snarky farside is obvtown.

[farside22]

Farside is pretty pissed I scum read her huh. And very much in the way of "what the shit everyone townread me you caught me for nonsense reasons"

i don't really agree with your reasons either. you're sayjng farside is scum who is angry about being caught for bad reasons?
are your reasons bad? why should we be listening to you?

Nah but I can be totally honest, my reasons for the initial vote were not exactly lynchworthy by any means. And at first reaction it seemed like town frustration because it was dumb but the tunneling is making me think otherwise. And pretty confidently, too.

Here's is what snarky is really saying here:
Vomit repeat
Vomit repeat
Vomit repeat
Oh I'm getting called out I'm going to now backtrack and claim it was all fake and still call the player scum

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Farside is pretty pissed I scum read her huh. And very much in the way of "what the shit everyone townread me you caught me for nonsense reasons"

What are your other reads? Farside isn't getting lynched today.

[Not Chara]

Farside is pretty pissed I scum read her huh. And very much in the way of "what the shit everyone townread me you caught me for nonsense reasons"

i don't really agree with your reasons either. you're sayjng farside is scum who is angry about being caught for bad reasons?
are your reasons bad? why should we be listening to you?

Nah but I can be totally honest, my reasons for the initial vote were not exactly lynchworthy by any means. And at first reaction it seemed like town frustration because it was dumb but the tunneling is making me think otherwise. And pretty confidently, too.

farside isn't tunneling you. she's scumreading you because your reasons were bad. she's scumreading players besides you.
and you admit they weren't great.

what you're doing is closer to tunneling than what farside is. i don't think you're making sense. and i would also like to know your other reads.

on Seraphim: i wish he had more than a handful of posts. i'd like him to explain more before i get a rid on him. i don't think he's the best choice for a wagon, either.

[grapes]

First off
VOTE: Obi

Yume always prod dodges until eventually getting replaced

That too. I don't understand why s/he's not banned.

*off topic*
She has a game restriction on her main but not on her alt which is stupid.
*end off topic*

VOTE: Creature

Hi. Come play.

VOTE: Creature

These votes reek. Creature is like perfect null right now.

VOTE: Farside

Wtf?

I'll go bullet points.

21 early mason claim. whyyyyyyy (and yes 24 is just as scummy, joke or not -__-)
206 "oh wait being a mason is a joke"
217 "I believe obi / cakez claim".........................................................................
217 **Cakez note
602 farside is fake af

tl;dr "obi is scum for doing more or less same shit as me"

+a few other reasons but this is fine for now.


and that Cakez note. Farside do you still townread Cakez?

Vote farside guys

Can you translate this?
How is she calling Obi scum for doing the same thing as her?

Got like 7 more pages to read but wanted to dump this

farside what's town about this^

[Not Chara]

grapes: what is towny about calling your scumreads town without substance? mafia can call town players town. it's actually a requirement.

also: "all of their scumreads would have to flip town to make the argument that they're easy lynches to make"?

[farside22]

farside: fine. i still think OWK is scum, and i'm going to need actual reasons for them as town to be playing like this before i think to reconsider. after all my asking, i haven't received any, ao i'm highly doubtful.

Almost50 i would like to speak too more. i thought he was looking a bit better more recently, or i was possibly just feeling better about him, but all of the talk about the lie detector isn't useful. it doesn't help that he claims to have very few reads.

i think Creature is town.
Rational and grapes are the players i want to be looked at most, now.

grapes: this doesn't mean i don't want a response from you.

I have that other chat thread going on and I feel comfortable with my almost 50 town read.
The only person I'm unsure in that group is Cooldog.
He's not saying much.
Creature doesn't seem town to me.
Can you explain why you think he is.

In regards to obi.
It really comes down to Titus head
She is a bit weird sometimes. Let's just say Titus scum is less goof. Yes I realize that means it's meta but that's how I get with some players.

[farside22]

First off
VOTE: Obi

Yume always prod dodges until eventually getting replaced

That too. I don't understand why s/he's not banned.

*off topic*
She has a game restriction on her main but not on her alt which is stupid.
*end off topic*

VOTE: Creature

Hi. Come play.

VOTE: Creature

These votes reek. Creature is like perfect null right now.

VOTE: Farside

Wtf?

I'll go bullet points.

21 early mason claim. whyyyyyyy (and yes 24 is just as scummy, joke or not -__-)
206 "oh wait being a mason is a joke"
217 "I believe obi / cakez claim".........................................................................
217 **Cakez note
602 farside is fake af

tl;dr "obi is scum for doing more or less same shit as me"

+a few other reasons but this is fine for now.


and that Cakez note. Farside do you still townread Cakez?

Vote farside guys

Can you translate this?
How is she calling Obi scum for doing the same thing as her?

Got like 7 more pages to read but wanted to dump this

farside what's town about this^

The bottom part that snarky never responded to.

[grapes]

Yea I think you're pocketed.

[farside22]

grapes: what is towny about calling your scumreads town without substance? mafia can call town players town. it's actually a requirement.

also: "all of their scumreads would have to flip town to make the argument that they're easy lynches to make"?

Just my 2 cents on this.
I notice it is harder for scum to explain scum reads then town reads.
Scum know who is town and can adjust that mentality by pointing what they see is town.

[farside22]

Yea I think you're pocketed.

[grapes]

grapes: what is towny about calling your scumreads town without substance? mafia can call town players town. it's actually a requirement.

also: "all of their scumreads would have to flip town to make the argument that they're easy lynches to make"?

I don't know what you're getting at with the first line.

I was telling creature his point on obi having an opportunistic scumpool doesn't really work before flips.

[grapes]

Yea I think you're pocketed.

You're ignoring an opportunistic vote + a bunch of surface level commentary to cover it up. And hyperfocusing on the part where he questions a scumread on you.

You tell me.

[kraskaesque]

Snarky lean town bc theyre sticking out their neck with their farside read

@grapes reply to my post at you pls

[Not Chara]

i thought Creature was scum for gut reasons early on. however, today he has been moving towards town, because of how he responded to OWK when addressed by them, and the commentary on their readslist. (which is comprised of easy-to-push players, yes) i wouldn't consider myself easy to push, but i am the newest and i could see myself being viewed as mislynch material.

i waxed a bit long winded in the hood with regards to experience levels, meta, and what i believe is bias, but i'm not sure if grapes read it.

back to Creature: i wish he would do more analysis, and my townread isn't concrete, but i would not want to lynch him.

grapes: you said beeboy's reads that lacked substance but resonated with you were towny. i want to know why that is.

[farside22]

I'll check into that grapes.

[Not Chara]

farside: i probably will not understand this until i've seen mafia titus.
why doesn't she get lynched when she plays coherently? in games where she's mafia.
also: is she aware she'll be townread for acting as you say?

and on what you said about scum: that makes sense to me. but, i know you're saying it because you townread OWK. unless i misintepreted something.

[Xkfyu]

Snarky, why are you town reading me?

[farside22]

You're in my scum pool so no

your loss

@kraskaesque how would you feel about an alliance

lol asking your scum buddy for an alliance?

@Cerby, I feel so lost during this phase knowing scum cannot push anyone. That gives me direction. You two seem bold and leaders. If you could vote, where would you want my vote to be and why? Note:Farside, Mastina, grapes and Klingon don't really seem like good options to me. Whenever I think someone is scummy, they go be all townie and I am all like I dunno.

This has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.

mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)

You should actually explain this.

I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?

Sure, why not! It's a BIG gamble on my part, I know (bc .. you know .. in the majority of games we were of opposite alignments), but a very good player IMHO and if you're town here then we rock!!

I'll submit the request right now

Ok I sent in the request. It will be worth it.

Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational

Anyone else hasn't made an impression on me

Yea I think you're pocketed.

You're ignoring an opportunistic vote + a bunch of surface level commentary to cover it up. And hyperfocusing on the part where he questions a scumread on you.

You tell me.

Okay so I iso sir and only saw the one other post made by sir cakez.
I do agree grudgingly that his post do come across as surface level content with not much added.

Moves cakez to scum lean.

[farside22]

farside: i probably will not understand this until i've seen mafia titus.
why doesn't she get lynched when she plays coherently? in games where she's mafia.
also: is she aware she'll be townread for acting as you say?

and on what you said about scum: that makes sense to me. but, i know you're saying it because you townread OWK. unless i misintepreted something.

Idk.
It's a fair question.
I just known the few times I scum read her I was right. Few times I town read her I was wrong but for the most part I'm 8 out of 29 good with my read of her.
I wouldn't mind beeboy saying more from the head.

[Seraphim]

Why not, farside?

Why not xfy or random.
That's the point.
Twie is the one you picked so I'm asking why him over others.

Gut mostly. If I were to try and qualify that statement, out of the lurkers his show the greatest disengagement from the game. When I was working to catch up, I knew that there was no way all of the scum were in the active players list. I didn't have any particularly strong scumreads, just a lot of conflicting personalities and drama in which it was too soon to call who was scum or not. And a lot of shitposting. So I decided to go through some of the lurker isos and see if I could catch something. I tend to do better when there's less information to compute as there is less possibility of read dilution. TWIE stood out as "drive-by" lurking and it seemed like a good place to start until so more stuff happened.