STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

randomidget hasn't posted anything in our alliance PT yet.

DrippingGoofball

has yet to appear in ours...

[mastin2]

Okay, Cooldog's the guy I'm putting down for now as my fifth.
It's not as strong as I'd like it to be, but I think he's more likely scum than town.

Fully revised readslist:
Yume
grapes
farside22
Creature
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Seraphim
TheWayItEnds
Firebringer
Killthestory
Almost50

randomidget
kraskaesque
(I am almost ready to promote them, but not quite.)

Skybird
Foxbird
McMenno
Shiro
SnarkySnowman
DrippingGoofball

Klingoncelt
(If any of my scumreads flip town, she goes in.)

Cooldog
Not Chara
Xkfyu
Reasonably Rational
SirCakez

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Can you talk to me about Creature? He's the biggest difference we have (aside from fire which I need time on).

I am at NC Creature Cakez klingon CoolDog X, add DGB/Fire if wrong?

[Klingoncelt]

WHY has Yume become semi-confirmed after Mastina put her at the top of her reads??

Yes, why indeed. Why would Yume become confirmed town after mastina the self-proclaimed mason has Yume the person who confirmed mastina in the first place as town. Almost like there's some form of mutual confirmation going on, in a private thread. If only there was a name for that.

okay, that's funny.

[Klingoncelt]

Why can't Cakey be the one to align with grapes? After all, those two are townreading each other so something productive may come of us.

A grapes/NC alliance just kills talking in a hood guaranteed.

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

Okay...

Almost50

, is it a stupid idea? Why?

[Klingoncelt]

Part of me wants to start a wagon on Master Shiro because he talks to me more than he posts in here.
But I also think he might be town that just wants to chat with me.

I am divided on Shiro. Shiro needs more gifs to prove his townieness

I thought Shiro was a "she."

[Klingoncelt]

I'm sorry everyone, I have the worst toothache imaginable and will not be doing shit with this game until it stops.

-Cerb

Oh wow, get well soon!

[Klingoncelt]

Protect me for a free win~

Huh?

I want to ally with you Day 2.

You're a load of laffs.

[Klingoncelt]

Its time to kick this game into overdrive.

@Varsoon Activate the Event:

Wat?

[Klingoncelt]

Killthestory: i really hope you aren't actually an innocent child.

[Klingoncelt]

VARSOON, MY TRIGGER EVENT HAS COME INTO PLAY! PLEASE ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD!

FOR THIS PLANET IS UNTO ME, AND IF CAN'T DEFEND IT, WOE IS TO DONE TO ME!

Wat?

[Klingoncelt]

Seems like a lot of events are being triggered today.

[Klingoncelt]

@Seraphim, The scumhunting?

@Mastina, You should skim their hydra in Suikoden. They were scum there. There's no scumhunting in their ISO in either place. Klingon is in my scumreads. Look at how little interactions with NC, SirCakez, RR, and Creature in their ISO.

Titus, you know better than to say that shit about me.

In a game this size there's no way I'm interacting with every player this early on Day 1.

You know that.

[Klingoncelt]

It's late, I'm tired, I'll be back to catch up on the shitshow tomorrow.

Mastin, Titus, do you guys think Grapes is playing the same way he did in that other SU?

Because it seems really different to me.

[McMenno]

hey klinconcelt, rando, yume and twie... vote me you cowards

more coherent thoughts when I'm not phoneposting

possibly

[Yume]

To answer you, RR, her hard defense of NC is suspicious. It looks to me like the defense of their buddy.

p-edit: Well, since you asked nicely....

VOTE: McMenno

[farside22]

VOTE: Cakey

RR isn't likely scum. You damn well better have a plan for getting NC lynched because if not, this game will have to go perfect for Farside to be forced to reassess. They won't bother to even justify their townread of NC but mystic ironclad evidence is not good enough.

I'm saving this for later.
So many words

Tell him to post here more.

Lol this scumread got really strong really fast.
It was just because of "rule of three" earlier.

Gonna keep avoiding this?

P-edit: You should talk to grapes about that so he can follow through on it if it's worth it NC

Not avoiding it.
Rule of 3 isn't weak
Your chainsawing on NC's behalf is obvious too.

What is rule of 3 exactly.
Explain why you believe this so truly that you not only ignore everything I've posted thus far that you keep using it.
If this is only one game related moment that happened to work.
I'll be happy to explain why it's false here.

Cakez: grapes is scum. i'm not telling them anything about my role. also not worth it, because mastin made it very clear she does not want to risk allying with scum, and in her own words she is 85% sure i'm scum.

fuck. i feel as though things are finally moving in a way i can actually affect, and i don't even think Cakez is scum anymore.

i'm breaking my silence on OWK because i

have

to ask: how is farside still strong town to you when she will, apparently, single-handedly assure my win for the scumteam? do you have such a low opinion of her play? the same low opinion she seems to have of yours? how in the blazes are you two townreading each other, again? i'll probably regret this in some way later.

pedit: yes Cakez, please don't flame. it's both of those things, and also you don't need to.

We have a live/hate relationship

Titus, I want to hood with you two tomorrow, so we can yell at each other and figure shit out, hopefully.

This needs to happen. God knows everytime I post something Titus just ignores it.

[farside22]

OK. I'm at the bottom of page 49; and I have 3 things (ok, 2 now) I wanted to mention before I forgot:

1- farside voting SC hit me as a surprise. I had just read a full read list in which SC was town. What gives?

2- grapes explaining that negative utility is like .. blowing it over? I actually had to go reread my own role PM in search of a bonus that I might've missed, and I don't see anything I could gain from having an ally, so I guess I'm still down to ally with you if you want to. *Shrug*

3- This WAS a point I wanted to respond to, but it's changed now.

Spoiler:

At the time NC was responding to OWK telling them they're not confirmed, they happened to mention grapes in that post, only grapes had not been voting them yet.. just stated the intention to.

OWK clearly said 4 players VOTING, and I think they even mentioned them by name earlier. Even if they didn't, the VC tells you who is voting you, so to say OWK,grapes and Almost are not confirmed is a bit misleading to those who are not following closely, bc -if I wasn't on the wagon myself- I would've thought you meant THREE out FOUR are not conf!Town in your opinion, which is FALSE.

I hope I'm making myself clear. I often struggle to make my points. My point is OWK thinks 4/4 are conf!Town and arguing it. The response hints 3/4 are not, when in fact 2 voters have not been addressed bc they ARE conf!Town to the majority (Yume's not conf!Town to me still until Mastina elaborates on the subject). Furthermore, OWK themselves ARE conf!Town to the majority of players, so there were at least 3 conf!Town there no matter how you put it.

Ill discuss this more in our pt.
It's a longish post.

[farside22]

Okay, Cooldog's the guy I'm putting down for now as my fifth.
It's not as strong as I'd like it to be, but I think he's more likely scum than town.

Fully revised readslist:
Yume
grapes
farside22
Creature
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Seraphim
TheWayItEnds
Firebringer
Killthestory
Almost50

randomidget
kraskaesque
(I am almost ready to promote them, but not quite.)

Skybird
Foxbird
McMenno
Shiro
SnarkySnowman
DrippingGoofball

Klingoncelt
(If any of my scumreads flip town, she goes in.)

Cooldog
Not Chara
Xkfyu
Reasonably Rational
SirCakez

Why is ra dem so high on this list?

Nc post about grapes has me rethinking my read on him.

[farside22]

Grapes: what started your scum read on nc?

[grapes]

mastin2/Yume/farside22/Obi-Wan Kenobi/McMenno/Almost50/Creature/SnarkySnowman/killthestory/randomidget/Skybird/Seraphim/Firebringer

DrippingGoofball/Foxbird/TheWayItEnds/Shiro

Xkfyu/CooLDoG/Klingoncelt/kraskaesque/Reasonably Rational/SirCakez/Not Chara

[grapes]

Grapes: what started your scum read on nc?

They townread me too fast. But needed to pretend to townread me for it to make sense why they were down to ally from page 1.

[grapes]

Sera: Mcmenno is probtown because he's reading the game from a town POV.

[grapes]

okay, i'm really getting tired of this. tl;dr: grapes asked a bunch of useless questions, did not engage with me at all, and ignored almost all of my commentary about the game in favour of responding badly to all of my attempts to get anything out of them. this is after grapes said they wanted to sort me in the hood. you can see my requests for specific points against my OWK read spilling into the thread.

I woke up, responded briefly to you in the hood before I posted anywhere else on site.

I wanted

1) Your reads - in particular why you thought I was town - you still haven't given a good answer for this
2) Your reaction to being asked to claim - I didn't want your claim - I'm notorious for reading people based on play. This is documented
3) Your reaction to being pushed.

How isn't that sorting?

Like his main argument is that my focus wasn't in a hood that's open during the day.

Read my posts in the fucking Game Thread.

[farside22]

Grapes: what started your scum read on nc?

They townread me too fast. But needed to pretend to townread me for it to make sense why they were down to ally from page 1.

She called you town on page 15.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8308634

How is that too fast?

Do you have a link to the reason they gave you.

(So proud I remembered to switch pronouns)