Open 652- Making Friends and Enemies: Over

[texcat]

Zyf, could you give us a current reads list? I admit to being confused about your reads.

[Zyf]

Zyf, could you give us a current reads list? I admit to being confused about your reads.

I admit to being confused right now too, but as of right now
Conftown: me lol
Town: no one c'mon get better at the game scrubs
Pretty Town: Hark, thor, loopdan
Sorta town: Dunnstral
Null: Io, Not_Mafia, NJAC
Nullscummy: Penguinpower, texcat
Nullscum: Naru, karnos
Scum: BBT

VOTE: BBT
Just realized going thru your short af isos that bbt has been doing a lot of not actually helping us do anything at all
a stark contrast from what I know as town!them

[Harkonnen97]

@Hark-- I'd like to hear your thought process on how your reads on Zyf and Martha have progressed since game start.

already explained about martha

as for zyf:
>game starts
>martha scumming up
>zyf flip-flopping and interacting weirdly around her
>i start scumreading zyf
>i start getting town vibes from his latest posts (not because i find them pro-town, but because i dont see scum writing so much bullshit),
which balances my read on him to null

[Zyf]

f**k u too

[Narurider]

@Naru

VI doesn't mean bad townie. It means bad player.

Ah okay I think I understand now

VOTE: BBT
Just realized going thru your short af isos that bbt has been doing a lot of not actually helping us do anything at all
a stark contrast from what I know as town!them

How does town!BBT play in your experience?

[Loopdan]

as for zyf:
>game starts
>martha scumming up
>zyf flip-flopping and interacting weirdly around her
>i start scumreading zyf
>i start getting town vibes from his latest posts (not because i find them pro-town, but because i dont see scum writing so much bullshit),
which balances my read on him to null

So are you saying that his bad play makes him more likely town? Is this a Zyf specific meta-read?

[texcat]

Pretty Town: Hark, thor, loopdan

You thought my reasoning for finding Thor to be town (because he looked like he was scum hunting) was bogus. What's your reason for having a town read on these three?

[Zyf]

as for zyf:
>game starts
>martha scumming up
>zyf flip-flopping and interacting weirdly around her
>i start scumreading zyf
>i start getting town vibes from his latest posts (not because i find them pro-town, but because i dont see scum writing so much bullshit),
which balances my read on him to null

So are you saying that his bad play makes him more likely town? Is this a Zyf specific meta-read?

lol no they've never played with me

[Zyf]

@Naru

VI doesn't mean bad townie. It means bad player.

Ah okay I think I understand now

VOTE: BBT
Just realized going thru your short af isos that bbt has been doing a lot of not actually helping us do anything at all
a stark contrast from what I know as town!them

How does town!BBT play in your experience?

they were a lot more aggro

[Zyf]

Pretty Town: Hark, thor, loopdan

You thought my reasoning for finding Thor to be town (because he looked like he was scum hunting) was bogus. What's your reason for having a town read on these three?

The same bogus reason tbh

the thing with thor is that they're incredibly hard to catch as scum with no flip so I'm just gonna roll with them being nulltown for now since I already have 3 scum. They probably deserve to be in null, but that's no fun.

[Harkonnen97]

So are you saying that his bad play makes him more likely town? Is this a Zyf specific meta-read?

im not calling it bad play. im calling it weird from a scum pov. look, it's hard to explain. i guess you can call it gut

[NJAC]

I'm rereading. Maybe I'll do some comments later on what I've found and reply to more recent stuff.

Meanwhile I want to make some questions on some tiny things that have called my attention:

Okay, let me try to explain better.
Martha is the biggest wagon rn, and p much everyone is scumreading her.

Not a fan of Martha so far

Doesn't really put alot of pressure, does it?

Sorry if this is obvious, but I'm trying to understand your point: here you say Naru's not putting a lot of pressure on Martha, or that by stating suspicion on the biggest wagon he won't be pressured to explain his read further?

Assuming the former, if you think that doesn't put a lot of pressure, what would have been a better way to put the pressure?

Hmm...maybe not Loop.

Looking like a Hark/Thor scumteam

...what are the odds?

UNVOTE: Loopdan
VOTE: Hark

I am interested in how you came to that conclusion so quickly. What makes you think that?

Out of everything that you could have questioned, you chose probably the most boring.

Why exactly do you think that was probably the most boring thing to question? What was the most exciting thing to question at that moment?

Zyf FoSed Martha, yet he didn't vote her

What were you implying here?

[Save The Dragons]

The

damnit I edited the wrong one

vote count

4 texcat (Thor665, Narurider, karnos, BlueBloodedToffee)

2 Zyf (NJAC, Loopdan)
2 karnos (Penguin Power, Dunnstral)
2 BlueBloodedToffee (texcat, Zyf)
1 Not_Mafia (Harkonnen97)
1 Harkonnen97 (Io)

Not Voting: Not_Mafia

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day ends:
(expired on 2016-09-21 04:08:06)

[Thor665]

We're 15 pages in.
I'd like to see the single vote wagon voters (Hark and Io) either do something useful with their votes, or really start trying to convince people on the value of those wagons.
I have zero interest in following Io's wagon on Hark.
I don't dislike the lurker lynch Hark is chasing, but if you want that to mean anything you gotta do something with it.

The other three mini wagons also need some more effort on them, I wouldn't mind a single counter wagon, maybe even two, but three 2 vote wagons is pretty weak.
The BBT wagon is 'meh' to me.
The Karnos wagon isn't even that exciting.
I disagree with the Zyf wagon currently, but only on gut.

I'd actually like to get an L-1 and a claim on Texcat.
Or people should move some votes around to give us an actual competing alternate wagon.
This game is about to hit the doldrums otherwise.

[Loopdan]

I agree with Thor that something needs to happen. This game exploded out of the gates with ten pages of content in the first RL half day. Now it's sputtering.

texcat needs to do more to convince me his slot isn't scum.

VOTE: texcat

[PenguinPower]

I'd actually like to get an L-1 and a claim on Texcat.

Interesting...

Hmmm...

VOTE: texcat

Claim.

[PenguinPower]

Ah, fucking mobile. WTF?

[Zyf]

OI PENGUIN

L-1

Textcat's slot already claimed, idiots

[Zyf]

Seriously considering penguin!scum as higher than bbt rn

[Zyf]

I'm a VT
*sigh* now lynch me.

Fuckin jesus christ you guys are sketch af

[Thor665]

So do you believe the slot is town?

[PenguinPower]

Seriously considering penguin!scum as higher than bbt rn

OI PENGUIN

L-1

Textcat's slot already claimed, idiots

Jesus Christ you are an idiot. Thanks for ruining that one.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[Thor665]

@Penguin - so the slot is scummy enough to gambit, but not scummy enough to leave your vote on?

[PenguinPower]

@Penguin - so the slot is scummy enough to gambit, but not scummy enough to leave your vote on?

I'm null on the slot. I might put it back on, but I'm considering a few things right now.