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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:42 pm

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beeboy, Koakuma (
Good 1-shot Desperado
), was stabbed to death Night 2.


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東方妖々夢

~ Perfect Cherry Blossom ~


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小悪魔 (Koakuma)


"Ex-assistant of the great magician of the library.
She has been searching for her master for months."
Ability: Magic of the Book


Her master's book contained a spell for her to use.
This lethal magic will backfire if she fails to punish those who took her master away.
This magic is too powerful for her so that using this magic once will drain her magical power completely.
She has been saving this magic for only one moment.

This translates to being a
1-shot Desperado
using Mafia terms.
Win Condition


Koakuma is sided with the
Good Side
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She wins when all of the factions who are not good side are eliminated.


Now it is Day 3.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-23 20:42:53).
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:43 pm

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VC 3.00
Not Voting:
zMuffinMan, pieguyn, Vedith, GreyICE, MathBlade


With
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:06 pm

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Okay this has to be LyLo.

I quick skimmed yesterday and I think it is GreyICE and zMuffin but want a bit of time to interact with people to validate.

For the love of God no one vote yet because scum can quick hammer.

@GreyICE you have consistently said Zmuffin is scum yet have never voted for him. You also talked about putting him under the radar of a power role in 360. With a bullet proof flipped and beeboy dead (likely desperado) how do you reconcile pushing muffin constantly while voting other people and claiming bussing?

@MuffinMan Why all the pushes on GreyICE yet you settle? You both keep saying you know things about each other and it is quite surprising.

@Both explain how this isn't cross bus to victory.

@Vedith Yoo Hoo activity is awesome

@Pieguyn Explain why you never comment a quote on a single muffin post and only one from GreyICE?

If I am wrong on Muffin+Grey gotta have Pieguyn in it.

Don't see any scum teams possible with Vedith in them.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:07 pm

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Well excuse me is desperado* wrote most of the questions preflip*
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:02 pm

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In post 802, MathBlade wrote:Why all the pushes on GreyICE yet you settle?
i don't understand what this question means

how much of that post did you write last night?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:05 pm

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A lot of it.

It is a simple question you say GreyICE is scum a lot. Yet push comes to shove your votes almost always ended up on someone else. Why the discord in voting pattern from your words?
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:06 pm

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In post 802, MathBlade wrote:explain how this isn't cross bus to victory
what a dumb request

what sort of answer are you even looking for here?

"well, you see... since the sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side, it's literally impossible"
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:10 pm

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In post 805, MathBlade wrote:It is a simple question you say GreyICE is scum a lot. Yet push comes to shove your votes almost always ended up on someone else
what? i've voted two people in this game (though you could argue i was voting edo in spirit yesterday, so three)

one of them was beeboy, one of them was greyice

if by "push comes to shove", you mean i wanted edo dead yesterday, then sure. i wanted edo dead yesterday. i thought he was scum, too. this may come as a surprise but you can have more than one scum read
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:11 pm

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Lol. No.

It means I expect you to explain why I shouldn't think this is you and GreyICE scum team together.b

And nice try on the math sarcasm.

Here is one you will like.

COM.mafia.town.LyloException Post 800 Two scum remain of 5 players exception
Root cause: Mislynch A, B

Suspected scum parameters ZMuffin GreyICE run scum scrutiny protocol on subjects to confirm.

Look for signs of squirm.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:14 pm

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In post 480, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 434, beeboy wrote:Question for the people voting me o/
Who am I scum with?
probably one of the people calling you town for shitty reasons (greyice, wisdom)

but hey, your softing probably bought you a day so good for you, i guess
You suspected him here but then Wisdom got lynched. Why weren't you voting GreyICE?
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:14 pm

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Instead you choose Edo instead. Why?
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:14 pm

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In spirit *
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:15 pm

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Driving home I want your scumreads by the time I get home.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:15 pm

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hi math.

I feel mostly certain that your slot is town (I just need to think about some things a bit more so I can be absolutely positive about it), so can you walk me through your logic behind there being no scum team including Vedith? my initial impression of the ICE/zmuffin interactions seems to be the opposite of yours, and that is the main thing I'm hoping to sort through today because if they both can't be scum and I'm right about you being town Vedith is guaranteed.

I don't really have any answer for your question. I never had much of a reason to go out of my way to interact with either of them, so I didn't.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:16 pm

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i was voting greyice
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:19 pm

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In post 810, MathBlade wrote:you choose Edo instead. Why?
how much of the game have you read?

edo did one of THE worst fuckups ive ever seen a town player do (if not the worst), so much so that even if his play had been town independently (it wasn't, really, though there was nothing overtly scummy either), i'd struggle to see how a town player could do what he did
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:33 pm

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also, two more things otoh:

1. we should probably massclcaim today.

2. ICE, I want you to enumerate your read on zmuffin in full detail. I do not want you to campaign to me, I do not want you to go out of your way to "convince" me or try to make points that I'll be receptive to or anything along those lines, I just want straight up the entirety of the logic behind your read. I am specifying this since I know you think "campaigning" is a better way of convincing people and I suspect it's what you were trying to do yesterday, but that isn't an effective way of convincing me if that's what you're trying to do since I heavily rely on directly assessing people's reads in order to form reads on them and that approach only serves to obfuscate this.

at the moment, I think you're scum, but it isn't a cut-and-dry scenario like PYP6 was, so I'm hoping that *if* I'm wrong about zmuffin/you this will help clear up some of the issues I'm having with your posts.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:41 pm

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why do you think mathblade is likely town
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:46 pm

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In post 817, zMuffinMan wrote:why do you think mathblade is likely town
Luna's posts + I think her replace-out is pretty good indication that I was correct that she legitimately just couldn't deal with this game.

I also think math's first post in this game was about 100% more coherent than anything they did in the entirety of magical girl game (even if I think they're thoroughly wrong with the "called X scum but voted Y" logic it isn't something that I look at and think someone would have to be insane to even think), but it's mostly based on Luna.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:50 pm

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what about luna's posts was town? why does luna not being able to deal with the game mean luna town?
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:54 pm

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In post 802, MathBlade wrote:With a bullet proof flipped and beeboy dead (likely desperado)
In post 803, MathBlade wrote:Well excuse me is desperado* wrote most of the questions preflip*
what do you think about this?

i suppose after what edo did this isn't some silver bullet or anything like that, but i think it's interesting that he presumably wrote that during the night phase
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:59 pm

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I already explained the general mindset I was getting from her posts in /subsequent posts, which should answer both of those questions. I'm aware that happened early game, but everything that's happened after that has continued to support it.

I might break her posts down in more depth sometime later and explain in full where my read on her is coming from. ignoring math's posts, are there any of Luna's posts that you took issue with?

p-edit: it seemed fairly obvious to me beeboy would be the kill last night. I don't really know if math assuming the same means anything.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:00 pm

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outside of the fact that he wrote that post during the night (so it was obviously something he spent time composing), what's coherent about it?
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:02 pm

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i don't think it was obvious that beeboy was going to die last night

tbh i expected you to die
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:07 pm

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1) I am a they
2) This was my breakdown

A)Beeboy is lying about the claim and scum.
B)Beeboy is telling the truth about the claim and is town.
B1) Beeboy is telling the truth about the claim and firing at me. GG no re my thoughts don't matter.
B2) Beeboy is telling the truth and firing at someone else.
Why lie in the thread then? Therefore I discount this option because if he shot it would be public knowledge.
B3)Beeboy is town and firing at no one.

A) B1) and B3) were the only possible options.

If Beeboy was alive that meant Beeboy scum because a Beeboy town would shoot if we lynched scum today. This makes Beeboy a liability because scum can't quick hammer the second LyLo. Therefore if Beeboy was town they had to be the shot.

Since I am alive and standing and not GG Beeboy was the forced kill.

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