STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

Because that'd imply that FIRST, my event lowered stress by two...AND THEN, some event raised stress by two...where Almost50's power then triggered...with a THIRD event lowering it down by two again.

It's when you SUBMIT your action trigger request, not when it resolves. I submitted mine when the stress was @ +1, so I did meet the requirements at the time. Anything beyond that point is irrelevant. (i.e. if stress changed after that, my event has already been submitted).

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Because that'd imply that FIRST, my event lowered stress by two...AND THEN, some event raised stress by two...where Almost50's power then triggered...with a THIRD event lowering it down by two again.

It's when you SUBMIT your action trigger request, not when it resolves. I submitted mine when the stress was @ +1, so I did meet the requirements at the time. Anything beyond that point is irrelevant. (i.e. if stress changed after that, my event has already been submitted).

Wrong.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well misleading.

[Not Chara]

it's when you submit

and

when it resolves. both are checked. that's why an event can't be submitted in advance with the assumption that the stress might change to accommodate it.

that's my understanding.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Can I answer Mastina?

[Almost50]

Well misleading.

Ask Mr-V then. It's how it went.

P-edit:

An event cannot be submitted in advance either using my logic. If the stress doesn't allow it NOW you can't submit it.

Now let's not forget the Prequel was neither Exposition (obviously) nor was it Climax. It was a dynamic phase. Maybe I'm wrong in my assumption, but I'm basing it on the fact I did submit my own event @ +1 stress and it did get triggered.

[Reasonably Rational]

The highest priority is a priority 0 Event, followed by 1, then 2, then 3, etc.
If a priority 1 and 2 event are triggered at the same time, only the priority 1 event resolves.

This does raise a concern of mine.

My power was a priority 0.
Almost50's was a priority 2.
I also submitted my ability in the prequel phase.
By this logic, shouldn't my ability have resolved first, rendering Almost50 unable to trigger his?

Because that'd imply that FIRST, my event lowered stress by two...AND THEN, some event raised stress by two...where Almost50's power then triggered...with a THIRD event lowering it down by two again.

Varsoon, can you confirm no mod error in event triggers has occurred?

Hey, Cerb, I'm letting you live, you can tell me if there's a flaw in the above concern, this sort of mechanics thing is your field.

Would it be too much if I pulled a you and directed you to read the mechanics post, under the heading dealing with events?




Alright. My event is a priority 0 as well, and as I said previously(and the OP says), priority 0 events are essentially removed from the priority system. They can just occur in tandem with other events.
Which means your concern is unnecesary, no additional event was required for both of yours to trigger. During the prequel, the necessary requirements were met, and both were triggered. There was nothing stopping them from resolving simultaneously at day start, and they did so.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well misleading.

Ask Mr-V then. It's how it went.

P-edit:

An event cannot be submitted in advance either using my logic. If the stress doesn't allow it NOW you can't submit it.

Now let's not forget the Prequel was neither Exposition (obviously) nor was it Climax. It was a dynamic phase. Maybe I'm wrong in my assumption, but I'm basing it on the fact I did submit my own event @ +1 stress and it did get triggered.

Correct but misleading.

[Not Chara]

i didn't mean in advance, sorry. i meant. well, say the event needs to be triggered in Climax and will resolve in the Exposition. you can't submit an event during climax if the stress for it is not at the required level.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

The highest priority is a priority 0 Event, followed by 1, then 2, then 3, etc.
If a priority 1 and 2 event are triggered at the same time, only the priority 1 event resolves.

This does raise a concern of mine.

My power was a priority 0.
Almost50's was a priority 2.
I also submitted my ability in the prequel phase.
By this logic, shouldn't my ability have resolved first, rendering Almost50 unable to trigger his?

Because that'd imply that FIRST, my event lowered stress by two...AND THEN, some event raised stress by two...where Almost50's power then triggered...with a THIRD event lowering it down by two again.

Varsoon, can you confirm no mod error in event triggers has occurred?

Hey, Cerb, I'm letting you live, you can tell me if there's a flaw in the above concern, this sort of mechanics thing is your field.

Would it be too much if I pulled a you and directed you to read the mechanics post, under the heading dealing with events?




Alright. My event is a priority 0 as well, and as I said previously(and the OP says), priority 0 events are essentially removed from the priority system. They can just occur in tandem with other events.
Which means your concern is unnecesary, no additional event was required for both of yours to trigger. During the prequel, the necessary requirements were met, and both were triggered. There was nothing stopping them from resolving simultaneously at day start, and they did so.

-Cerb

Ding ding ding

[mastin2]

I'd like your thought on my meta read and references to shiro.

I don't put much stock in it.
But here's where I'm at.
OWK, Almost50, you, Yume, grapes, Killthestory, McMenno, and Creature, I'm willing to bet the game on being town.
Kraskaesque, TheWayItEnds, and Skybird, I have strong townreads on.
TheFuzzylogic is a weak townread.

That leaves Klingoncelt (scumread), Twin Wings (lean town), Xkfyu (waiting to divulge), Shiro, DGB, Cooldog (scumread), RR (scumread), Not Chara (lean town), SnarkySnowman, and randomidget.

There is apparently a traitor in the game, rendering interactive tells less useful than they should be. If both my lean towns are correct, there should be at least one scum in Shiro/DGB/SnarkySnowman/randomidget. If any of my scumreads are wrong, that jumps to two.
Said scum may or may not be groupscum, but would be scum all the same.
So I am

very, very strongly

taking your Shiro read under consideration.

[mastin2]

Should we be lynching Grandma then?

Certainly wouldn't be opposed; I laid out my reasons why.
But, she does get one chance to fullclaim and explain herself.

[Almost50]

Can I answer Mastina?

If you do have an answer, why don't you spell it out?

P-edit: @NC:

That's what I'm saying. But if the stress IS at the required level by the end of Exposition, you can submit it, and I think it will resolve if not suppressed by another event of higher priority (erm.. numerically lower priority, that is)

[farside22]

Meh, I kinda don't feel like lynching Shiro. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

Because I fucking said so.

No joke.

I'd rather lynch Shiro than farside.

Did you even bother to read my wall which had a section on her?

This is NOT farside's scumgame.

I'd like your thought on my meta read and references to shiro.
She admitted that she is more aggressive as scum, except apparently while in a hydra, Titus hasn't confirmed this.

We were aggressive wherever we hydraed. I confirm that. We never rolled scum.

Ok I did a one game search and now I'm going to give you a dirty look.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65594
How the fuck is that aggressive?

We tunnelled the fuck out of Toog.

EbWoP: "Scum game" = "game". No idea why I typed scum in there.
The pile-on of people who will now claim that it was a slip in 3... 2 ... 1 ...

It

would

be appropriate and oh SO karmic considering the crap you pushed on farside, but oh well. Tempting as that offer is: for now I'll pass.

Oh come the fuck off it Mastin. Titus' slip in Steven Universe was ONE word. I believe the sentence that caught her was "Sonic can get refilled and get the refill" and it was that last bit where implicitly she slipped and revealed she knew Sonic could copy people's abilities. That was a tiny miniscule detail. Scum slips are sometimes the tiniest of things.

And by the way, ask Yume about those two posts and what I told her. Then look at the posts following them.

~D

Not in the same realm at all.
I was in a pt with both players and forgot whom did what.
You really have no point at all in regards to it.

[Not Chara]

Almost50: ah, i see.

[farside22]

Oh yeah bi, tunneling is not the same thing I'm referring to in regards to shiro

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I'd like your thought on my meta read and references to shiro.

I don't put much stock in it.
But here's where I'm at.
OWK, Almost50, you, Yume, grapes, Killthestory, McMenno, and Creature, I'm willing to bet the game on being town.
Kraskaesque, TheWayItEnds, and Skybird, I have strong townreads on.
TheFuzzylogic is a weak townread.

That leaves Klingoncelt (scumread), Twin Wings (lean town), Xkfyu (waiting to divulge), Shiro, DGB, Cooldog (scumread), RR (scumread), Not Chara (lean town), SnarkySnowman, and randomidget.

There is apparently a traitor in the game, rendering interactive tells less useful than they should be. If both my lean towns are correct, there should be at least one scum in Shiro/DGB/SnarkySnowman/randomidget. If any of my scumreads are wrong, that jumps to two.
Said scum may or may not be groupscum, but would be scum all the same.
So I am

very, very strongly

taking your Shiro read under consideration.

I am at you, me, Yume, grapes, kTS, McMenno as bet the game town
Random Shiro ss lean town
Rr null but bad lynch
Nc, creature DGB lean scum, first two might be townbeards
Klingon x CoolDog Farside as scum, but Farside may be beard

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Oh yeah bi, tunneling is not the same thing I'm referring to in regards to shiro

Tunnelling isn't aggressive?

[Not Chara]

i resent being called a possible townbeard. which scum would you say would be manipulating me?

[Almost50]

OWK, Almost50, you, Yume, grapes, Killthestory, McMenno, and Creature, I'm willing to bet the game on being town.

Being an ex-tipster (sports) I might be tempted to take you on your wager here. They might be UP TO THREE scum in your top tier there. I'd say 1-3, an namely (in order of read strength): Creature, farside & McMenno.

Hell I don't even know why I'm still town reading KTS after he had already retracted his IC claim.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Meh, I kinda don't feel like lynching Shiro. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

Because I fucking said so.

No joke.

I'd rather lynch Shiro than farside.

Did you even bother to read my wall which had a section on her?

This is NOT farside's scumgame.

I'd like your thought on my meta read and references to shiro.
She admitted that she is more aggressive as scum, except apparently while in a hydra, Titus hasn't confirmed this.

We were aggressive wherever we hydraed. I confirm that. We never rolled scum.

Ok I did a one game search and now I'm going to give you a dirty look.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65594
How the fuck is that aggressive?

We tunnelled the fuck out of Toog.

EbWoP: "Scum game" = "game". No idea why I typed scum in there.
The pile-on of people who will now claim that it was a slip in 3... 2 ... 1 ...

It

would

be appropriate and oh SO karmic considering the crap you pushed on farside, but oh well. Tempting as that offer is: for now I'll pass.

Oh come the fuck off it Mastin. Titus' slip in Steven Universe was ONE word. I believe the sentence that caught her was "Sonic can get refilled and get the refill" and it was that last bit where implicitly she slipped and revealed she knew Sonic could copy people's abilities. That was a tiny miniscule detail. Scum slips are sometimes the tiniest of things.

And by the way, ask Yume about those two posts and what I told her. Then look at the posts following them.

~D

Not in the same realm at all.
I was in a pt with both players and forgot whom did what.
You really have no point at all in regards to it.

Olive branch... I don't trust you but Mastina does. Lay off RR today, and I don't go after one person you pick today.

[farside22]

Oh yeah bi, tunneling is not the same thing I'm referring to in regards to shiro

Tunnelling isn't aggressive?

Not in the category I'm using as examples of scum Shiro, if you actually read it, which you probably didn't.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I'd like your thought on my meta read and references to shiro.

I don't put much stock in it.
But here's where I'm at.
OWK, Almost50, you, Yume, grapes, Killthestory, McMenno, and Creature, I'm willing to bet the game on being town.
Kraskaesque, TheWayItEnds, and Skybird, I have strong townreads on.
TheFuzzylogic is a weak townread.

That leaves Klingoncelt (scumread), Twin Wings (lean town), Xkfyu (waiting to divulge), Shiro, DGB, Cooldog (scumread), RR (scumread), Not Chara (lean town), SnarkySnowman, and randomidget.

There is apparently a traitor in the game, rendering interactive tells less useful than they should be. If both my lean towns are correct, there should be at least one scum in Shiro/DGB/SnarkySnowman/randomidget. If any of my scumreads are wrong, that jumps to two.
Said scum may or may not be groupscum, but would be scum all the same.
So I am

very, very strongly

taking your Shiro read under consideration.

I am at you, me, Yume, grapes, kTS, McMenno as bet the game town
Random Shiro ss lean town
Rr null but bad lynch
Nc, creature DGB lean scum, first two might be townbeards
Klingon x CoolDog Farside as scum, but Farside may be beard

Almost in bet the game town too.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Oh yeah bi, tunneling is not the same thing I'm referring to in regards to shiro

Tunnelling isn't aggressive?

Not in the category I'm using as examples of scum Shiro, if you actually read it, which you probably didn't.

Enough of this. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am not reading. You did the same thing with my Cakey read.

What are your thoughts on Klingon? CoolDog?

[farside22]

Tell rr to stop being reach your. Maybe have Cerb in the thread this game day since he's the more rational of the two.
I don't believe you'll follow my read to be fair