In post 4102, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Farside: just curious, need to clear something up. Earlier, when you said something about going along with whatever Titus was talking about in that post, you basically said only if Drixx stopped posting. Was it your intent to threaten us with being vigged to keep Drixx from posting? I didn't read it that way, but it has been brought to my attention that it could have been meant that way.
Please clarify.
-Cerb
In post 4103, Reasonably Rational wrote:Farside, do you think Titus is scum? The question you're asking, the accusation of inconsistent applying standards, is sorta a thing that people tend to ask those they're suspicious of about.
If you ARE suspicious of Titus, please share why. I don't understand it.
-Cerb
No, nothing like that. Drixx personality just makes me grind my teeth.
As for the second I'm bothered by Titus weak defense of Shiro when it came to the meta talk and
just now she dodges my question about why she asked me over Shiro, like it's a thing.
She still isn't really explaining it. She just wanted to see if I noticed but doesn't follow up with Shiro.
There is a big gap in logic from Titus in regards to shiro and I'm going to push on Shiro and if scum ask Titus
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Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
In post 4102, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Farside: just curious, need to clear something up. Earlier, when you said something about going along with whatever Titus was talking about in that post, you basically said only if Drixx stopped posting. Was it your intent to threaten us with being vigged to keep Drixx from posting? I didn't read it that way, but it has been brought to my attention that it could have been meant that way.
Please clarify.
-Cerb
In post 4103, Reasonably Rational wrote:Farside, do you think Titus is scum? The question you're asking, the accusation of inconsistent applying standards, is sorta a thing that people tend to ask those they're suspicious of about.
If you ARE suspicious of Titus, please share why. I don't understand it.
-Cerb
No, nothing like that. Drixx personality just makes me grind my teeth.
As for the second I'm bothered by Titus weak defense of Shiro when it came to the meta talk and
just now she dodges my question about why she asked me over Shiro, like it's a thing.
She still isn't really explaining it. She just wanted to see if I noticed but doesn't follow up with Shiro.
There is a big gap in logic from Titus in regards to shiro and I'm going to push on Shiro and if scum ask Titus
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I got reasonable comments from Shiro. This is still a deflection.
Why won't you do a quick readwall? Reasonless even.
In post 3988, Shiro wrote:Eh I reached the conclusion that I was wrong about almost and I don't like RR lynch tbh, people seem convinced but meh.
Cooldog is policy lynch soo not much there.
I am still iffy suspicious about Farside tbh, like I doubt Varsoon woukd give town 2 dayvig. Then again I heavily doubt Farside is vig.
This.
This is good enough?
Sure I can be vague too.
Rr - even though I haven't done the research I'm changing my read on and figure they should be aloud to see if they are telling the truth about their ability.
Wait that not vague eniugh.
A50 town
Mastin town
Grapes town
NC mostly town
Shiro obvious scum.
Lurker out there probably scum
Titus - being weird and totally would not be surprised if scum.
Yeah that's more then enough there.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
@grapes: that's because your reasons are bad? I mean I don't really know what else to say. If you had raised good points I would have conceded them. I do that all the time when people say things that make sense. When they don't, I correct them. Even if you had said something that doesn't make sense to me, but I could conceivably twist my mind around to a universe where your positions make sense, I would concede the point.
You haven't done that.
And to go more in depth about WHY I demand more information: because if I'm wrong, now I've forced scum to take a stance, state a reason for it, and can catch them later on based on having a hard data point to work with.
Actually, now that I think aboit it, I'm pretty sure I've admitted to being busy/uninvolved with thr game and the things that have happened as a result of that which made mastin scumread me on D1.
Also...just because I don't do things the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not actually figuring things out. This really shouldn't need to be said, but, well..apparently you need to hear it.
-Cerb
In post 3988, Shiro wrote:Eh I reached the conclusion that I was wrong about almost and I don't like RR lynch tbh, people seem convinced but meh.
Cooldog is policy lynch soo not much there.
I am still iffy suspicious about Farside tbh, like I doubt Varsoon woukd give town 2 dayvig. Then again I heavily doubt Farside is vig.
This.
This is good enough?
Sure I can be vague too.
Rr - even though I haven't done the research I'm changing my read on and figure they should be aloud to see if they are telling the truth about their ability.
Wait that not vague eniugh.
A50 town
Mastin town
Grapes town
NC mostly town
Shiro obvious scum.
Lurker out there probably scum
Titus - being weird and totally would not be surprised if scum.
Yeah that's more then enough there.
Shiro is reevaluating his reads after being wrong. You're only giving the obvious reads minus me as scum. You dropped RR solely because it wasn't popular.
In post 4158, grapes wrote:I mean shit, you made one bad question and look how I expounded there.
Imagine if I iso'd you?
Dude, the question wasn't bad.
You're not finding a receptive audience in me today. Even if right, there are other scum and RR can keep conftown alive.
Titus claimed 1/3rd if the potential benefits of my event on my behalf on D1. Drixx claimed another 1/3rd himself sometime today I believe.
There has been no softing.
-Cerb
Correct.
Rr has a priority 0 event that will have good things happen that scum will likely be unable to manipulate. One option is adding a 1 shot BP. I withheld the others but he has told me. That is
: Do you guys have anything to say about anything that's happened since the game started? It would be nice to have things to go off of to sort you with.
I am not going to tell you that you are wrong grapes, but he is forced into a negative ev as scum, if they are. Use him. Engage his reads. Don't focus on correcting, but understanding. Get him to talk. No one loses there.
In post 4120, grapes wrote:RR is scum like even just this page he just tried making you and farside start tvting again not sure why people are unvoting that.
My other reads are staying pocketed for now. Need to see some catch-ups from people who probably know who they are.
Bullshit. That question got asked because Cerb got home from work and I told him I didn't feel comfortable posting again today because Farside Implied that she would vig us if I did. It's super comforting to see that her reply was that she didn't mean it that way.
But then it got way LESS comforting when she attacked me personally in the same post.
Regardless; you aren't a mind reader and you have demonstrated a clear contempt and spite for us, so anything we say that you can try and twist to make look sinister results in the only posts you seem to make. You are displaying zero interest in anything else.
I love how you're obviously aware that you aren't actually contributing or helping at all too. You can tell because of the second part of your post. Guilty conscience? (Don't bother answering; I won't be posting again today. Whether she admits it or not, Farside responded to Titus asking her to leave us alive by putting out a condition that I not post, and she also implicitly called me irrational, and then when she denied doing those things, she attacked me personally again. This is not an environment that I'm interested in atm.)
this is the late day 1 argument all over again. i enjoyed the first one, found it to be entertaining. possibly because i had a clear goal then. for whatever reason, i'm not enjoying this one. it's kind of upsetting.
on Shiro: they really need to explain in more detail what changed their mind on Almost50 and others. (if i'm remembering correctly that there were others)
the lack of thought process is not helpful.
this is also no longer a 'you're wrong but town' argument. farside clearly said she was scumreading Titus. at least a bit.
i'd wager very little alignment information is going to be communicated or received. stop. well. keep pushing if it's for alignment. not to try and prove a point to someone about a past game. or whatever this is.
Spoiler: personal
personal: even if it isn't meant that way, Cerb and/or Drixx are obviously taking some comments personally. that isn't going to foster good hunting, just bad feelings. i don't really have a good solution to propose other than to please watch what you are saying.
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"You're the oddest juxtaposition of reasonable and unreasonable I've ever seen."
fair enough. farside, forgive me if i missed something, but i only remember you answering Titus's question about the readslist by saying you did not have the time at the moment.
as for the reason she asked you again and not Shiro... is that not because Shiro isn't around right now?
"You're the oddest juxtaposition of reasonable and unreasonable I've ever seen."
supposing you are 100 percent right and she did make the traitor claim... Why should we not wait to lynch her or hope a vig might shoot her. Why should she be priority one our lynch list. ( oppose to scum hunting a bit more?)
Mastin-
You need to confirm or deny you are a Miller.........
Oh, she did definitely make the Traitor claim.
Do we want a Vig to shoot her hopefully? NO. HELL NO.
Do you want to give Scum a chance to recruit her?
Do we want to wait for her lynch? NO. HELL NO.
Do you want to give Scum a chance to recruit her?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
First I told KC that she was mod-confirmed scum to me LOL
Then whined that I didn't know who all my buddies are, can she please name them?
If that had worked I'd be a hero
Post 5 you claimed Traitor. Post 9 you claimed that you get to Cop your Ally. Post 10 you took credit for taking my vote. Post 11 claimed "some kind of" Ascetic.
Time elapsed: 14 hours.
Not even close to simultaneous.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
In post 4165, Titus wrote:I am not going to tell you that you are wrong grapes, but he is forced into a negative ev as scum, if they are. Use him. Engage his reads. Don't focus on correcting, but understanding. Get him to talk. No one loses there.
I am perfectly aware how annoying it is to watch someone tunnel on a person you think is town.
The main difference is that the reads I'd like to push that aren't RR aren't ripe to push quite yet, and I'm more confident that they're scum then most of my other suspicions anyway.
You'll see me branch once certain commitments that I'm looking for are made.
