Lynching me will cost town the game. I've helped push blue scum all game, and shared Skybird's scumread from my hood after her death. I could have just ignored it. Creature and Iraon were also trying to get me lynched all game.
In post 3218, Narna wrote:Valhalla is pushing Town Block quite hard for bad play rather than scumtells. Oh he missed Long Island redacting the vt claim
and
forgot he roleblocked someone? I don't think either of those are alignment indicative unless you straight up don't believe Townblock to be a roleblocker.
Oh well, the lynch probably can't be switched to egg no matter what because Hebi and I are at the start of the wagon. I still subscribe to the idea that two town players would not have role blocked Valhalla n1, so it's not a bad lynch. The reasoning to switch off of Egg seems a little forced though.
This seems like scum-aligned with TownBlock, because he is overjustifying his position and conceding without a vote.
^Super obvious scum trying to throw town under the bus with his scumbuddy.
In post 3840, Creature wrote:Can we lynch this? Lapsa isn't aiming to stay under the radar, Narna is.
Basically we do NOT disagree there. What I want to know though is who the SK is out of the other 4. Is it Narna? Is it PV? Is it Elyse (unlikely IMHO) or is it Math (also unlikely, but less so than Elyse now)?
We have time, and we can work together, and whoever is town (obviously 3 of those are) can help us dig for clues to pick the odd one out. Obviously someone's lying, and we need to catch them in their lie before it's too late.
Let's keep a couple of things in mind:
1- You are dying tonight and I can't help you because the SK IS A STRONGMAN.
2- Math (if town) said they suck at LyLo, which is probably why they're still alive.
For every single townie alive there are only 2 confirmed town-aligned players: themselves and YOU. No matter how strong they feel about any given other player, the fact is they could be wrong. YOU (as the confirmed one) have a responsibility to try and leave us in the best situation you could.
Now, if I was the SK I would want Lapsa alive still, bc I do need the extra kill. However, what guarantee would I have that he won't be shooting me (whether it be knowingly or by the wrong guess)? Unless the Strongman SK is also BP, that is, which means LAPSA needs them lynched as well.
The two can work together for one more night at best, but eventually will have to face off, and it's a matter of "who draws first" .. kind of an old western gun duel.
So, in my mind: Whether Lapsa IS Blue Scum (90%) or not (10% at best) he still needs to lynch the SK today. On the other hand he may have given up already and is giving the game to the SK rather than the town, and therein lies my dilemma.
So, my suggestion is to identify the SK to the best we can (down to 2 possibilities) before we lynch Lapsa. That means the town will go into D11 with a 4-1 advantage and CAN afford a mislynch on D11 and still win on D12.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Lapsa explain it like I am a kindergartner. Why am I scum?
My role PM says town and I love breaking things down to their finer points and take your argument and figure out if you are SK or I have Blue and SK backwards or you are town.
I may have taken the shitposting too far, but Math is really committed to losing this game.
I still don't like how a50 is opting to lynch the sk which he's narrowed down to 2 (4 if you count the unlikely reads) suspects through poe over his 90% certain scumread. We go down to one kill a night if we kill either maf or sk, and we get two more lynches. We very likely won't get another lynch if we mess up here. Maybe I'm too tunneled on his Gollum hammer, but it looks like he's over hyping the sk threat on purpose.
In post 6136, MathBlade wrote:Lapsa explain it like I am a kindergartner. Why am I scum?
My role PM says town and I love breaking things down to their finer points and take your argument and figure out if you are SK or I have Blue and SK backwards or you are town.
What even links Lapsa to sk? He actively did jaot things.
In post 6136, MathBlade wrote:Lapsa explain it like I am a kindergartner. Why am I scum?
My role PM says town and I love breaking things down to their finer points and take your argument and figure out if you are SK or I have Blue and SK backwards or you are town.
What even links Lapsa to sk? He actively did jaot things.
His vault post. I have a hunch wanna sleep on it. Sweet dreams.
In post 6136, MathBlade wrote:Lapsa explain it like I am a kindergartner. Why am I scum?
My role PM says town and I love breaking things down to their finer points and take your argument and figure out if you are SK or I have Blue and SK backwards or you are town.
i'm town
my current vote on you is half-serious - tried to jumpstart day
stupid remark about you being red springs from Narna's recommendation to throw a shade on you. so i absurdly did
In post 5974, Narna wrote:Yee, just iso and ctrlF "Math" then twist things and toss that shade.
i don't think you are blue. voting patterns are too convulated and distanced from everyone. solo vote on iraonavp feels especially unnecessary
Accountant -> Boem -> Rach -> Iraonavp (solitary vote for a long time) -> Valhalla (again, solitary vote for a long time) -> Shaziro (w/ boring) -> Shaziro (again solitary vote after everybody else moved elsewhere) -> Egg (this one feels towny) -> Lapsa (also towny. at the moment of that claim refusal thing) -> ... ? -> boring -> solo on Narna -> Basic (w/ Elyse, eventually grows into mislynch) -> Gollum (you started wagon, jumped around to 5th/6th place on wagon. Gollum mislynch) -> abstaining from voting till it's clear Iraonavp getting lynched -> starting Narna wagon
but the possibility of SK seems very viable. especially with idea of PGO and your endless nacho bullshit
In post 6136, MathBlade wrote:Lapsa explain it like I am a kindergartner. Why am I scum?
My role PM says town and I love breaking things down to their finer points and take your argument and figure out if you are SK or I have Blue and SK backwards or you are town.
What even links Lapsa to sk? He actively did jaot things.
His vault post. I have a hunch wanna sleep on it. Sweet dreams.
err... what do you mean by that? how does that link me to sk?
already explained idea - tried to lure NK on myself in case Almost50 is an SK
In post 6137, Narna wrote:I may have taken the shitposting too far, but Math is really committed to losing this game.
I still don't like how a50 is opting to lynch the sk which he's narrowed down to 2 (4 if you count the unlikely reads) suspects through poe over his 90% certain scumread. We go down to one kill a night if we kill either maf or sk, and we get two more lynches. We very likely won't get another lynch if we mess up here. Maybe I'm too tunneled on his Gollum hammer, but it looks like he's over hyping the sk threat on purpose.
i might be missing something - but i don't understand a50 either
@a50 why are you favoring SK lynch over blue lynch?
as i see it we can get rid of them only via lynching, both lynches decreases kill power - so what difference does it make?
is it just trying to use time to the fullest?
In post 6129, Almost50 wrote:
Now, if I was the SK I would want Lapsa alive still, bc I do need the extra kill. However, what guarantee would I have that he won't be shooting me (whether it be knowingly or by the wrong guess)?
and this one feels unnecessarily self-conscious.
why do you even assume yourself in place of SK?
whole #6129 feels like attempted communication with blue scum
I have training all day today, so won't be back until later or tomorrow.
I am town vig.
night1 I shot Blanche.
I was looking for scum among the lurkers using the activity page. I was confused the next morning, since I had submitted a kill on kraska, who had like 5 posts. Turns out he was part of the Blanche hydra.
night2 I shot Foxbird
Once again, looking for scum trying to not post in a 42 player game
night3 I shot Seraphim
12 posts after 3 days, but I got lucky and shot scum.
night4 I shot Skybird
Low posting, which I partially attributed to scum meta, plus ISO looked dodgy.
night5 I did not shoot
The days/nights were happening quickly, and I didn't have time to research a good shot, so I skipped it. We had blue and red flips, and until we knew the mafia size, I wanted to start making more informed shots.
night6 I shot Serrapaladin
Didn't like the iso and seemed to be trying to fly under the radar.
night7 I shot Creature
When I isoed him, he seem to be softing some sort of role, but didn't seem to have any actual contributions. Plus, Basic flipped town, and I thought both were scum.
night8 I shot vedith
Low posts, bad iso, everyone else was more townish.
Elyse claim covers the 2 extra kills.
I haven't gone through the other claims to compare to kills, but based on Eylse, I don't think there is an SK anymore. There would be too many missing kills/crosskills/protects for there to be 4 killing roles each night.
Right now I thinkg Lapsa is blue scum because of JOAT, but Narna-scum because of worst claim ever.
Anyways, I'll be back later to catch up and answer questions.
We should be able to deduce Red/Blue kills on most of the nights.
