Open 652- Making Friends and Enemies: Over

[Dunnstral]

within minutes was quite the exaggeration as that was actually around 4 hours but it still pretty much stands

[Thor665]

Texcat really hasn't done much to make me reconsider my read

on them in my opinion. However Thor seems a bit iffy to me as well. He literally has his vote on Texcat all of D1, he did not at any point vote anyone else.

This might not mean anything

but at the same time there were three other major wagons that weren't Texcat and He didn't join any of them.

Its possible he didn't scumread any of them but I find it kind of weird

. Also his defense of Hark seems off to me, though

I can't figure out what makes me feel iffy about it.

I'll read over again and

see if I'm just being paranoid

. So overall

I'm fine with voting either of these two

at the moment and will probs flip flop between the two until I figure out which one I think is the scum out of the two of them.

VOTE: Thor

The bolded comments indicate solid read of scum on Tex - and a vast amount of wishy-washy on me.
Votes me.
Meh.

I feel dumb for having to ask this but what do you mean by this?

I mean your vote was used yesterday both in a classic defense counter wagon way to protect a buddy, and also in a classic bussing placement.
In short - you don't look like you actually wanted to lynch him, yet made sure you were safely on the wagon.
Looks planned.

VOTE: PenguinPower
^this needs to eat rope today

How do you connect him and Karnos?

Following up on Thor, I think if he was Town he would have absolutely have had something to say to me for effectively tunneling me. Instead he ignores me

Why shouldn't I ignore you? You didn't make a case, you didn't ask me questions, why is everyone so excited to act like there's a case on me somehow?
While we're at it;

I have no intention to vote anyone but Thor

Why is that? I know you don't have a case on me, so why triple down on it?

Same gak.
It's weird.

[Harkonnen97]

How do you connect him and Karnos?

Other than the fact that they both have scum rolecards - I don't.
Should I?

[NJAC]

@Dunnstral: in case you didn't note it, this was addressed to you:

I don't want to lynch penguin

please elaborate

There's nothing to elaborate

In fact I'd also like you to elaborate. Why exactly don't you want to lynch Penguin?

[Thor665]

How do you connect him and Karnos?

Other than the fact that they both have scum rolecards - I don't.
Should I?

Personally I don't think youreally should, but I was curious if you saw something I was overlooking.
Now that we have a flipped scum - his interactions with others and others with him really should be able to be presented as a component of the case to lynch anyone.

[Harkonnen97]

Now that we have a flipped scum - his interactions with others and others with him really should be able to be presented as a component of the case to lynch anyone.

Why?

I'm having a hard time believing that town!Thor is trying to tell me that we should lynch someone based on a flipped scum's ISO.

[Harkonnen97]

Another thing - Thor, did you purposely sit out during the end of Day 1, or you just weren't here?

[NJAC]

I'm having a hard time believing that town!Thor is trying to tell me that we should lynch someone based on a flipped scum's ISO.

Why is it hard to believe? I find it reasonable. And I don't think Thor is referring only on karnos' ISO, but in his interactions with others. In fact that's one of the reasons of my vote being on Naru and not on Penguin.

[Zyf]

I'll even thow in some reasoning: They're both so fake with their interactions

I specifically asked Thor why he was ignoring the Naru stuff day 1 - I remember asking that

They both come back from not posting for ~3 whole days and respond to each other

within minutes

. Like, ok.

Them voting each other looks like a really poor attempt at distancing

Following up on Thor, I think if he was Town he would have absolutely have had something to say to me for effectively tunneling me. Instead he ignores me

hopefully they, like, show back up 'n shit, because this is kinda convincing

[Zyf]

yo wtf i lost a whole page apparently

[Zyf]

UNVOTE:
(this is a countermeasure to N_M)

again with the fucking shade, holy shit
this makes me uncomfortable because penguin was L-2

[Zyf]

we have 3 mislynches available so thats nice

plus conftown for later

[Zyf]

Now that we have a flipped scum - his interactions with others and others with him really should be able to be presented as a component of the case to lynch anyone.

Why?

I'm having a hard time believing that town!Thor is trying to tell me that we should lynch someone based on a flipped scum's ISO.

At this point I'm confused who do you scumread

Another thing - Thor, did you purposely sit out during the end of Day 1, or you just weren't here?

Loaded question, wtf
Even if they did sit out purposely, why would they tell you?

[Zyf]

UNVOTE:
(this is a countermeasure to N_M)

again with the fucking shade, holy shit
this makes me uncomfortable because penguin was L-2

ignore the second half but def. keep the first half

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:
(this is a countermeasure to N_M)

again with the fucking shade, holy shit
this makes me uncomfortable because penguin was L-2

A zyf lynch is good too

[Zyf]

someone pitch naru to me above penguin based on association, I cba to do it myself
penguin gets bonus "town" points for it

[Zyf]

UNVOTE:
(this is a countermeasure to N_M)

again with the fucking shade, holy shit
this makes me uncomfortable because penguin was L-2

A zyf lynch is good too

you have officially thrown spontaneous shade at like more than 3 people

is it really that fucking bad that I respond as I go throughout a 30+ post catch-up? professional scumhunting here boiz

[Dunnstral]

Oh yea, I don't understand how Zyf is hark's top townread

[Dunnstral]

@Dunnstral: in case you didn't note it, this was addressed to you:

I don't want to lynch penguin

please elaborate

There's nothing to elaborate

In fact I'd also like you to elaborate. Why exactly don't you want to lynch Penguin?

Because I don't really think they're mafia

[Dunnstral]

Why shouldn't I ignore you? You didn't make a case, you didn't ask me questions, why is everyone so excited to act like there's a case on me somehow?
While we're at it;

That seemed to be your soft defense of naru and karnos day 1 - "no case, why should I address this stuff"

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:
(this is a countermeasure to N_M)

again with the fucking shade, holy shit
this makes me uncomfortable because penguin was L-2

A zyf lynch is good too

Yep. He's scum.

[texcat]

Okay so I'm pretty sure that Hark is town. I think I made a mistake on that scumread D1 so sorry about that Hark. I'm also thinking NJAC, Dunn, BBT and Zyf are probably town.

Can you explain why you changed your mind on Hark? Can you tell us what the "mistake" was?

I'm not a big fan of loop's slot at the moment because of the whole protest that probably wasn't actually a protest thing. I honestly can't understand what was up with Loop that made him think that was a good idea but I'll give his replacement a bit of time before I consider voting the slot.

I've got a feeling that Texcat and Thor aren't the same aligntment and I'm not entirely sure which one I figure is more likely to be scum out of the two of them. Texcat really hasn't done much to make me reconsider my read on them in my opinion. However Thor seems a bit iffy to me as well. He literally has his vote on Texcat all of D1, he did not at any point vote anyone else. This might not mean anything but at the same time there were three other major wagons that weren't Texcat and He didn't join any of them. Its possible he didn't scumread any of them but I find it kind of weird. Also his defense of Hark seems off to me, though I can't figure out what makes me feel iffy about it. I'll read over again and see if I'm just being paranoid. So overall I'm fine with voting either of these two at the moment and will probs flip flop between the two until I figure out which one I think is the scum out of the two of them.

VOTE: Thor

I can't tell you how much I hate this either/or choice of yours. It sure looks like scum trying to set town up for two mislynches to me. Why are you so sure that it's TvS and not TvT or SvS??? I would have expected a scum!Thor to continue his tunnel on me.

VOTE: Narurider

[Harkonnen97]

Zyf is too bad to be scum.

[Zyf]

fuck you guys

[Harkonnen97]

Jokes aside,

ok, wtf I can't stand for this karnos is dropping so many scum posts I can't handle it
VOTE: karnos

At the time this post was written, I was at L-1, and Zyf's vote was on texcat. He could have hammered me. Instead he started the wagon on karnos. He is town.