Death Note Mafia (Game Over!)

[Synik]

If Basic is scum and knows im going to flip town, nullreading me doesnt buy him any town cred on my flip.

but attacking your wagon does. regardless of if he's reading you null or town. it still looks strange to me.
then again. by that logic, i could also see why you wouldn't agree.

why does Ank seem like scum who knows you're town, and not town reading you correctly by gut? in your opinion?

Not the way hes attacking it I don't think.

...

My Ank read is based on his earlier posts and not his arguments around my wagon.
I think Ank is fully capable of being scum arguing against a wagon he thinks will go through, even if it doesn't end up going through right now.
Ank is also fully capable of reading an entrance as town, as town and arguing based on that.
So my Ank read is a little wait-and-see right now.

[Almost Chara]

I dont like your unvote
What changed?

i said what changed. i probably would have unvoted last night if i had been thinking properly.

Gamma Emerald: your idea would be difficult to apply. you could simply ask for reads the regular way.

1249: what does this mean?
~Chara

[Almost Chara]

If Basic is scum and knows im going to flip town, nullreading me doesnt buy him any town cred on my flip.

but attacking your wagon does. regardless of if he's reading you null or town. it still looks strange to me.
then again. by that logic, i could also see why you wouldn't agree.

why does Ank seem like scum who knows you're town, and not town reading you correctly by gut? in your opinion?

Not the way hes attacking it I don't think.

...

My Ank read is based on his earlier posts and not his arguments around my wagon.
I think Ank is fully capable of being scum arguing against a wagon he thinks will go through, even if it doesn't end up going through right now.
Ank is also fully capable of reading an entrance as town, as town and arguing based on that.
So my Ank read is a little wait-and-see right now.

i guess.

i wanted to know how you were taking his defense of you into account.
~Chara

[Almost Chara]

to clarify: you did answer that in 1250.
~Chara

[Wisdom]

NM, Bro and Chara on the wagon are all super weak. And I could totally see 2 scum among those three names.

N_M is prob town. Scum doesnt join a wagon like that.

wat
why wouldnt scum jump on your wagon? Especially yolo-scum like N_M?

[Wisdom]

though: after rereading my exchange with Synik last night... i'm less sure on the wagon. i still don't see the kind of town reaction i would be looking for, but i can see where he came to his reads for the most part. in hindsight, i'm also suspicious when i'm townread in a certain way.
both kraska and SirCakez seem sure about their meta argument, and i agree with kraska on Synik's earlier posts looking awkward.
but his responses to me were less so.

thats not an explanation for the unvote
you say he still could be scum but might not be, so basically nothing new

[Nero Cain]

the only think that kinda bothers me about Almost Chara is that Almost 50 isn't posting.

[Nero Cain]

thing rather

[Almost Chara]

where i was going with that thought was 'he might just be like that, even if he didn't display the reaction i was looking for'. i don't know why i skipped saying it.
i think he could be town, hence the unvote. besides that one thing, i no longer have any issues with him.

Not Mafia: if he has a reputation of doing it as either alignment, i would call the hop NIA. it makes it easy to hide behind, though. i don't really have a read there.

could someone talk to me about iraonavp? i don't remember where i placed them in my list but i wouldn't know how to go about reading them.

but, Wisdom: even without the miscommunication, why wouldn't 'i'm less sure on the wagon' not be a reason to unvote?
~Chara

[Almost Chara]

the only think that kinda bothers me about Almost Chara is that Almost 50 isn't posting.

do you have anything you want to talk about with me?
was i off-base with Synik?

also:
VOTE: Snarky
~Chara

[Nero Cain]

you are not Almost50, I want to talk to Almost50.

I think Synik is prob scum and the resistance to her wagon is off. I think Basic is scum and just saw my wagon and hopped on. There is also a noticeable change in her tone after Kranska accuses her of pocketing Synik.

[KuroiXHF]

Vote Count 1.16

Not_Mafia

(0/11)

-

Sondam

(0/11)

-

Randomidget

(0/11)

-

Harkonnen97

(0/11)

-

JasonWazza

(0/11)

-

Basic

(0/11)

-

Synik

(8/11)

- Kraska77, Wisdom, SirCakez, Nero Cain, I Am Innocent, Harkonnen97, Iraonavp, BROseidon

BROseidon

(1/11)

- Vecna

Ankamius

(0/11)

-

Kraska77

(1/11)

- Sondam

Wisdom

(0/11)

-

Iraonavp

(0/11)

-

SirCakez

(0/11)

-

Narna

(0/11)

-

I Am Innocent

(1/11)

- Randomidget

Nero Cain

(1/11)

- Ankamius

Almost Chara

(1/11)

- Basic

Gamma Emerald

(0/11)

-

SnarkySnowman

(2/11)

- Narna, Almost Chara

Vecna

(1/11)

- Not_Mafia

Mewtaph

(2/11)

- Synik, JasonWazza

Not Voting:

SnarkySnowman, Mewtaph, Gamma Emerald
(expired on 2016-09-29 10:30:00)

Notes

- Sondam is V/LA until 9/26
- BROseidon is V/LA until 9/25
- Basic, I counted your vote against Almost Chara despite you voting Not Chara, but please make an effort to type in the correct player name, or I may not count it in the future.
- In the interest of full disclosure, I'll want to let you know that I'm having a shorter day at work because I need to pick up my wife whose car is immobilized and needs to go to the VW dealership. As a result, this is possibly my only vote count for today.

"Just watch me, L. I’ll solve equations with my right hand, and write names with my left. I’ll take a potato chip … and EAT IT!"

[Wisdom]

but, Wisdom: even without the miscommunication, why wouldn't 'i'm less sure on the wagon' not be a reason to unvote?

You put him at L-1
Sounds sure enough to me
And now you unvote without anything really happening to warrant it
I dont like it

[Synik]

NM, Bro and Chara on the wagon are all super weak. And I could totally see 2 scum among those three names.

N_M is prob town. Scum doesnt join a wagon like that.

wat
why wouldnt scum jump on your wagon? Especially yolo-scum like N_M?

Not that scum wouldnt jump on the wagon.

That scum isnt likely to jump on the wagon and then say that he has 0 scum reads.

Its a very strange way to draw negative attention to yourself.

[Wisdom]

There is also a noticeable change in her tone after Kranska accuses her of pocketing Synik.

as in, kraska was right about it, or?

[Wisdom]

NM, Bro and Chara on the wagon are all super weak. And I could totally see 2 scum among those three names.

N_M is prob town. Scum doesnt join a wagon like that.

wat
why wouldnt scum jump on your wagon? Especially yolo-scum like N_M?

Not that scum wouldnt jump on the wagon.

That scum isnt likely to jump on the wagon and then say that he has 0 scum reads.

Its a very strange way to draw negative attention to yourself.

in this game that ended today he claimed scum in his opening post and quickhammered two wagons
so yeah, you dont have a point

[Nero Cain]

maybe maybe not. I think it says more about Basic than Synik.

[Wisdom]

but if you think Basic changed his tone arent you thinking kraska was right?
That doesnt work with thinking Synik is scum

[Nero Cain]

@Almost50 please find and quote your post that says we should always vote my biggest scum read.

[Nero Cain]

but if you think Basic changed his tone arent you thinking kraska was right?
That doesnt work with thinking Synik is scum

How do you know this isn't mb?

[kraska77]

I feel that synik's posting started oozing emotion/frustation ever since I called it ronotic

[Synik]

NM, Bro and Chara on the wagon are all super weak. And I could totally see 2 scum among those three names.

N_M is prob town. Scum doesnt join a wagon like that.

wat
why wouldnt scum jump on your wagon? Especially yolo-scum like N_M?

Not that scum wouldnt jump on the wagon.

That scum isnt likely to jump on the wagon and then say that he has 0 scum reads.

Its a very strange way to draw negative attention to yourself.

in this game that ended today he claimed scum in his opening post and quickhammered two wagons
so yeah, you dont have a point

Its amazing how little this has to with my post.

[Almost Chara]

Wisdom: are you willfully ignoring what i'm saying? i voted, interacted, got a bad feeling, then left the wagon. and, a reread of Synik made me reconsider.

Synik: commentary?

Nero: anything about Synik/Creature's play that makes them more scum than town? i don't like wagon resistance arguments, i've seen them used on both alignments. (namely, me.)
i don't find their posting as 'wooden' anymore.

though i agree with the dislike of Basic.
~Chara

pedit: kraska, you think it was a calculated change?

[Wisdom]

but if you think Basic changed his tone arent you thinking kraska was right?
That doesnt work with thinking Synik is scum

How do you know this isn't mb?

where did mb come from?
until there are hints towards mb it's not mb

[Almost Chara]

but if you think Basic changed his tone arent you thinking kraska was right?
That doesnt work with thinking Synik is scum

How do you know this isn't mb?

i don't know what mb is, but i was under the impression Nero thinks Basic is scum trying to stop the wagon on Synik.
~Chara