Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

[BlackStar]

UNVOTE:

Starting to get the feeling that this is a mislynch

What...?

What did I do that changed your mind?

Nothing. It's just that nobody but zack seems to mind seeing you get lynched so you're either a mislynch or someone who's getting bussed. I don't want to vote you unless I'm sure which one it is.

>nobody but Zach

There's 2 scum teams of 2... how many people do you expect to "mind" that Gamma gets lynched

I forgot that there's 2 factions

[BlackStar]

*3

[Ümläüt]

I'm having a little trouble getting my head back into the game right now. I know that's terrible this close to deadline but that's what's happening.

One thing I just remembered: SS, quite a while back you said re. your Ari scumread that

Ari is meta from having played with him as town and having read some of his scumgames (including the recent 09:12 that you were in).

That's the only game I've played with Ari and I completely failed to scumread him there (picked him out purely by PoE in the end), so could you elaborate more on how his play in that game is similar to this one and dissimilar to his town games?

[Ümläüt]

I forgot that there's 2 factions

Trying to decide how plausible this is. (I don't get how you can sign up for an open setup and then forget how the setup works, but people seem to do it all the time.) Meanwhile, though, does it make you feel any better about the Gamma wagon?

[BlackStar]

I forgot that there's 2 factions

Trying to decide how plausible this is. (I don't get how you can sign up for an open setup and then forget how the setup works, but people seem to do it all the time.) Meanwhile, though, does it make you feel any better about the Gamma wagon?

This is my first time playing 4 games at once. I usually play 2 at a time. Cut me some slack lol. I don't know if this really changes anything though.

[Ümläüt]

Then you must have some other reason for thinking Gamma is a mislynch besides the number of people opposing his lynch.

[BlackStar]

Not really. Are you trying to get me back on the wagon?

[Ümläüt]

Not exactly (it's pretty full anyway), just trying to understand why you didn't get back on it yourself once your only stated objection to it was answered.

[BlackStar]

I've been a part of too many mislynches lately when I was confident that the person I was lynching was scum. So I guess I'm kind of paranoid and cautious now

[Ümläüt]

That's a good answer actually

[BlackStar]

What do you think of something_smart?

[Ümläüt]

I'd have to reread him. I remember having a town lean on him for his entry and I'm still kind of gutting town on him, but I appreciate the points you're making right now.

[Ümläüt]

These posts

Sorry Zach, you're on your own with Mimikyu now.

this line weirds me out and I can't quite wrap my head around why

I think it's something along the lines of, you're viewing lynches as tasks that need to be done (as scum do), rather than as dynamic options that need to be analyzed.

also ftr, I used to self-identify like Gamma did when I was newer.

I don't even know what I was thinking when I wrote that O.o
I guess I thought one of them voted the other for some reason... maybe I was thinking of Umlaut's Mimikyu vote. I told you I kept getting distracted
When replacing in I operate much better going forward then going backward (that's why I wanted to be in this game from the beginning).

anyway @Umlaut that makes a lot more sense now that I read it in that context. Your Gamma push is still very weak though.

just seem to come from a town mindset for me, though I'm having trouble articulating why. He brings up a couple of concerns and then is happy to drop them once they're addressed, it doesn't seem like he's trying to force anything. I know this isn't enough basis for a strong townread but it felt good to me.

[Aubrey]

I'd like an updated post from Jester regarding current events por favor.

[Zachstralkita]

I like the fact that the both of you are double guessing your reads on Gamma. It seems townie. I doubt scum would buss/push Gamma this close to getting lynched then suddenly back off. Not only is it super risky to bus this early as scum, but I feel like scum would commit to the bussing instead of backing off as well. Further more, if you two were scum looking to hunt other scum, I feel as if you would commit to the Gamma lynching even if you begin to have doubts regarding how scummy they may actually be. Any kill is beneficial to you as long as it isn't one of your own. In short, lynch the possible scum/town player, then night kill your other/stronger scum reads that developed later in the day phase.

You both have good town leans for me.

Odd, considering your vote is on Gamma.

[Dunnstral]

Odd, considering your vote is on Gamma.

Let's get him

VOTE: Aubrey

[Ümläüt]

I like the fact that the both of you are double guessing your reads on Gamma. It seems townie. I doubt scum would buss/push Gamma this close to getting lynched then suddenly back off. Not only is it super risky to bus this early as scum, but I feel like scum would commit to the bussing instead of backing off as well. Further more, if you two were scum looking to hunt other scum, I feel as if you would commit to the Gamma lynching even if you begin to have doubts regarding how scummy they may actually be. Any kill is beneficial to you as long as it isn't one of your own. In short, lynch the possible scum/town player, then night kill your other/stronger scum reads that developed later in the day phase.

You both have good town leans for me.

Odd, considering your vote is on Gamma.

I don't see how this is odd at all. There's nothing inconsistent or even troublesome about scumreading Gamma while townreading someone for doing otherwise, especially not when Gamma is by far the leading wagon right now.

[Aristophanes]

Aubrey wagon?
I'll pass.

[Gamma Emerald]

Odd, considering your vote is on Gamma.

Let's get him

VOTE: Aubrey

Opportunistic vote.

[Zachstralkita]

I like the fact that the both of you are double guessing your reads on Gamma. It seems townie. I doubt scum would buss/push Gamma this close to getting lynched then suddenly back off. Not only is it super risky to bus this early as scum, but I feel like scum would commit to the bussing instead of backing off as well. Further more, if you two were scum looking to hunt other scum, I feel as if you would commit to the Gamma lynching even if you begin to have doubts regarding how scummy they may actually be. Any kill is beneficial to you as long as it isn't one of your own. In short, lynch the possible scum/town player, then night kill your other/stronger scum reads that developed later in the day phase.

You both have good town leans for me.

Odd, considering your vote is on Gamma.

I don't see how this is odd at all. There's nothing inconsistent or even troublesome about scumreading Gamma while townreading someone for doing otherwise, especially not when Gamma is by far the leading wagon right now.

Obviously not at face value but I found something off about the way he worded it.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm goign to write out some thoughts as I read.

I'm n page 9 right now, holy cow you guys talk alot.... that's... GREAT!

Blackstar seems kinda aggressive but I have more of a null read on him so far.

Jester seems pretty scummy to me at the moment. Hes just sitting in the back acting like a commentator.

Page 10

Not really agreeing with meow's (i know its my slot!) thoughts on Gamma. Jester actually joins the game with post 246

Page 13

I'm seeing some similar commentator actions from Dunn, they have some thoughts on people but don't explain why.

Page 18 (yeah im stating to skim through some pages. I've been reading for more than 2 hours now!)

Holy shit! Some guy name BTD6_maker is in this game? Lurking hard!

Oh god I just powered through he last of it.

I need more time to read through iso's but here are some current thoughts of where we are at. I'm not down for a gamma vote. Dunn vote im ok with , but would really prefer a jester vote first.

I'm not sure about a something smart vote yet. I still have a null read with a slight town edge.

I'm just going to post what I have and start participating wher we are at in the game.

VOTE: The-Jester

[Aristophanes]

I don't see any of these counterwagon happening, nor do I see any pushes that are trying to be convincing in any way.

Js

[Vaxkiller]

I really don't feel Gamma is scum, My preference is Jester before Dunn, but I'll vote Dunn over Gamma for sure.

[Vaxkiller]

Seriously.

Give Jester's iso a read. They are not that long. He is basically acting as a commentator on the game except for his 246 post (hence why i said he "joined" the game at that point)
I really think we need to be lynching this.

[Zachstralkita]

I mean I still want to lynch Mimikyu but everyone thinks I'm fucking deluded apparently