Mini Normal 1825 - Game Over

[camn]

It will be revealed.

[Titus]

Yeah, I have an independent lean scum on house but considering what y'all are doing isn't working, I am not exactly going to sheep along under it will be revealed later.

[SpyreX]

Man i thought i was impatient

[House]

1) do you, or did you ever, really think that BBT was a cop. Please explain in moderate detail. And be honest. Lies are punishable by death at this point.

Do you really want to know how I'm so certain that BBT is town?

1272 - can't read Ryan for shit, suggests an investigative target him at the end (sic) of d1.

1392 - is

really

sure Ryan is town, at the very beginning of the next day.

1960 - had zero fear of being lynched. Some call this overconfidence, but he knows he won't be lynched because he has a role that can't be countered.

These three posts mean infinitely more in the way of reading (sic) alignment than

anything

rb has posted, imho.

Thought I already posted this.

If you need more detail than this, it'll have to wait for full intent.

[Chuck]

@camn:

Nah I'm very very fine off the House wagon. I don't see scum-House outing who he thinks is a cop. I see him keeping mum and shooting him.

If

the explanation for last night's kill and flip given SpyreX's claim is that Expedience kept BBT alive by jailing him, then House is about the

last

person I'm gonna think is scum. And def not a good lynch.

This player list is all about wagoning people and drawing out claims to prove a point. I'm just not on the same page. Why not just vote for who you think is scum? Or

do

you think House is scum?

[Chuck]

I do think BBT needs to eat a bullet tho

[camn]

Chuck - right now I think House is scum. I also think I can logically prove it, and eliminate my uncertainty.
But I can work it without you, I think.

Titus, will you put House at L-1 for me?

House, I want a plain answer, please. Your last post was insufficient. It's not a hard question, and there is no protown reason to refuse to answer.

[Titus]

If you hammer and house flips town, you know I am lynching you right? Why does house need to be at l minus 1? Why do you need to hammer?

[camn]

I need to have a conversation with him, under the threat of death.
I don't intend to quick hammer.
I am happy to give you the pleasure if you like.

[Saru]

I need to have a conversation with him, under the threat of death.
I don't intend to quick hammer.
I am happy to give you the pleasure if you like.

To be fair, House is very much under the threat of death, be it at L-2 or L-1. Not sure if you've noticed, but there's no other real wagon besides his, so it really shouldn't matter to you what vote count he's at.

The fact that the House wagon built up so quickly based on some mysterious reasoning/logic that camn refuses to give, definitely doesn't help persuade me to hop onto it. Actually, it does the exact opposite, and gives me the heebie jeebies.

camn, it would really serve you well to just explain your reasoning. I'm not sure I understand how House answering your questions is going to make you change your mind on him when you've apparently got an extensive reason to believe he is scum.

[camn]

I'm not concerned about serving myself. I wanna find scum, confirm town, and do as little as possible to help the scum team.
Thus: questions.

It's only been, like, 16 hours. Have patience.

[Titus]

Great, house knows I have zero problem voting him if he's scummy.

[camn]

OK! If house would answer my questions now, I would ask more. But he is refusing. He wants that newfangled "intend to hammer".
We will see how he feels later on? He's probably asleep.

[House]

No, don't vote me unless you want me dead.

I think Chuck is waiting off the wagon for a different reason.

If you really want to do this, I'll explain in detail... but doing so may cause more harm than good.

Consider your options carefully.

[Titus]

House, we need scum lynches. What could be so bad?

[House]

House, we need scum lynches. What could be so bad?

What indeed.

[camn]

Ok, house. I'm town, and I don't want too much out there, either, so I understand your reluctance.

But I think that you never really believed BBT was a cop. I think you made that up. I don't know why, other than you are scum and were just throwing out misinformation.
So tell me - did you ever, or do you know think BBT is a cop?
I promise you I will blow up your entire slot if you f-- with me.

[camn]

Know = now

[House]

Ok, house. I'm town, and I don't want too much out there, either, so I understand your reluctance.

But I think that you never really believed BBT was a cop. I think you made that up. I don't know why, other than you are scum and were just throwing out misinformation.
So tell me - did you ever, or do you know think BBT is a cop?
I promise you I will blow up your entire slot if you f-- with me.

Counter-question:

What do you think my opinion of BBT changing his read of RyanK from complete confusion to certainty over a night phase really was?

Present one rational alternative besides "investigative role" and I will spill all.

[camn]

I think you are scum, and you were rolefishing the whole time.

[camn]

Furthermore, I think BBT never bit your hook, and you still don't think he is a cop.

[House]

Huh, I think I wanna lynch Spyrex if Dier flips scum.

If Ryan was scum I'm going to give up playing Mafia.

Really does not sound like a PR statement.

That's... actually true.

Ya think?

[camn]

Your obtuseness is not moving me. I need plain answers.

[House]

I think you are scum, and you were rolefishing the whole time.

This is highly ironic, considering what you are doing.

[House]

Calm your britches, I have company and we're celebrating her birthday.