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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:28 pm

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I found understanding, that is scum-aligned...

JasonWazza is hiding behind ambiguity.

Also, I realized that he is doing the same frustration as last time to trick me.

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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:34 pm

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hey Iraon, have you read a town game of mine, or are you basing it off only a scum game?
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:22 pm

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In post 1889, JasonWazza wrote:Because it's Role madness, just because there is an FBI Agent doesn't confirm an SK.
Role madness doesnt mean bastard. This is an awful excuse.
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:25 pm

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Ive never seen an FBI agent in a game without an SK
That wiki thing must have been written ages ago
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:28 pm

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In post 1897, Vecna wrote:
In post 1864, Nero Cain wrote:What if Synik is the SK and fake claimed FBI agent? I guess it would help explain why Basic and others were hard defending that.
This is actually a pretty good observation and a possibility we should take serious. It would also explain why his wagon took off so quickly since the few mafia on it thought they were lynching town.

Did not think of this before, bonuspoints for Nero cain (even though scum could make the same observation ofcourse).
I very much doubt he would risk that as if there was an actual FBI agent (which is very likely in this flavor) it would mean certain death for him
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:30 pm

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Jason is still scum and needs hammering
Nero is still scum
Dont forget about the latter if i dont live tomorrow please
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:35 pm

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mostly to play devils advocate, in a normal game you can have backups without the what the role backsup so a FBI agent without an SK seems doable.

Jason, who do you even want dead at this point?
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:36 pm

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In post 1904, Wisdom wrote:I very much doubt he would risk that as if there was an actual FBI agent (which is very likely in this flavor) it would mean certain death for him
lets play this out, he claims FBI agent as SK and why is that a death sentence?
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:38 pm

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I dont think you read what i said
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:38 pm

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The only thing really holding me back from a Jason lynch is that fear mongering from Wisdom.
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:40 pm

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In post 1908, Wisdom wrote:I dont think you read what i said
you're right though, I did misread it.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:41 pm

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What "fear mongering"?
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:43 pm

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In post 1904, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1897, Vecna wrote:
In post 1864, Nero Cain wrote:What if Synik is the SK and fake claimed FBI agent? I guess it would help explain why Basic and others were hard defending that.
This is actually a pretty good observation and a possibility we should take serious. It would also explain why his wagon took off so quickly since the few mafia on it thought they were lynching town.

Did not think of this before, bonuspoints for Nero cain (even though scum could make the same observation ofcourse).
I very much doubt he would risk that as if there was an actual FBI agent (which is very likely in this flavor) it would mean certain death for him
He claimed it at L-1, certain death was knocking right on his door regardless. In such a situation, if you are in fact the serial killer, claiming FBI agent seems very plausible, no? In role madness all other claims are quite easy to check. Confirm roleblock? easy. Confirming a cop or any other type of tracking, quite easy as well.

Im not saying him being the serial killer is more likely than him being FBI agent or scum, but its simply an option we should not rule out.
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:44 pm

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Is jason at L-1 atm? I might consider a hammer here
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:45 pm

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In post 1906, Nero Cain wrote:Jason, who do you even want dead at this point?
Honestly i'm trying to work out this game still, because outside of everyone just playing as stupid town, this whole flash wagoning/flash dewagoning shit is becoming stupid, and i don't think i can make sense of an entire scum team doing it all.
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:46 pm

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In post 1913, Vecna wrote:Is jason at L-1 atm? I might consider a hammer here
A quick check puts me at 8 votes, and weren't you calling me town and shit just before?
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:47 pm

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In post 1811, Wisdom wrote:One more reason Jason is a better lynch is that Jason can be dangerous as scum when he wants to; while im pretty sure snarky will die one way or another before endgame
This is pure manipulation. Like no way Jason would be able to dodge all this persumed town power we have.
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:47 pm

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vote:Snarky
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:48 pm

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In post 1912, Vecna wrote:if you are in fact the serial killer, claiming FBI agent seems very plausible, no?
No because being the SK he would know theres likely to be an FBI agent, especially given the flavor. Therefore claiming something thats bound to be counterclaimed is suicide
There are better claims to make with survival in mind
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:50 pm

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Have you ever SEEN a FBI agent? I haven't and I've been here longer than you.
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:52 pm

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In post 1916, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1811, Wisdom wrote:One more reason Jason is a better lynch is that Jason can be dangerous as scum when he wants to; while im pretty sure snarky will die one way or another before endgame
This is pure manipulation. Like no way Jason would be able to dodge all this persumed town power we have.
Thats a non point; with that logic scum can never win since town powers will catch them
Youre making it more obvious youre scum at this point
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:52 pm

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like there's a reason that TSO fakeclaims it all the time
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:52 pm

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In post 1918, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1912, Vecna wrote:if you are in fact the serial killer, claiming FBI agent seems very plausible, no?
No because being the SK he would know theres likely to be an FBI agent, especially given the flavor. Therefore claiming something thats bound to be counterclaimed is suicide
There are better claims to make with survival in mind
Not disputing that, but assuming everyone under pressure makes optimal judgement calls at all times is not the wisest of assumptions either. Besides, so far what we've seen from synik I doubt he's the typical scum mastermind.
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:54 pm

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you should self vote. If you think manipulation is scummy and you are doing it then you are scum-aligned to yourself.
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:55 pm

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In post 1915, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 1913, Vecna wrote:Is jason at L-1 atm? I might consider a hammer here
A quick check puts me at 8 votes, and weren't you calling me town and shit just before?
I have stated before that I liked your one post attacking how the synik wagon dismantled. After that I posted this, and I still feel like that.

5. JasonWazza! - Felt pretty scummy at the start, but I liked that one post where he attacked the dissipation of the wagon. Upon rereading his Iso I really dont like what im seeing though. No real formulation of reads, complaining about the thread moving too fast and even the post I liked earlier seems to kind of come out of nowhere. Not noticing any desire to solve the game. - Slight scumread

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