Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Transcend]

Not really, someone collects 4 or 5 votes in RVS and then they either obv town or obv scum teh game.

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BlackStar since I think you've played with Rach more than me:

Is she good at feigning ignorance?

[BlackStar]

BlackStar since I think you've played with Rach more than me:

Is she good at feigning ignorance?

I don't think I've seen her do it before

[Transcend]

Where's your head at rn

I need to sleep soon

But I still think Creature needs to hang here

[RachMarie]

What I am not allowed to eat now?

Dude I think you are scum

I think tran has a much smaller likelihood of being scum

I think Black has no chance of being scum and is conf town

I know I am town.

How can I make it clearer than that?

Though I did get a kick out of tran's post of me sitting here laughing my ass off

Seriously though I do get gut reads but I hate them because I want LOGIC mafia is a game of cases and logic, and psychology, and figuring out PoV more than gut.

So yeah I am suspicious of gut reads

So far creature you have given me nothing to push that tran is scummier than you are.

Your claim was flaky as hell, I have presented an argument of why massive as the N1 nk over some of the others. I have pointed out some other points.

So yeah I am still happy with where my vote is.

[BlackStar]

Yh you guys all look town from this

There are scum in jordarrian vedith + creature. Maybe blackstar too

VOTE: Creature

Did this thread breed while I was asleep or something

ATM readslist:

Town - KTS, Naomi, Transcend, Xyzzy,

maybe

Io, Pistachi0n
Scum - Creature, vedith
Dunno - jordarrian, blackstar

Some creature analysis:

The first point is when he accuses Naomi of white knighting (which sufficiently confused me into think she had done so ). Reading back whilst there was little point in Naomi bringing up the point (50) for which she was accused of it I don't understand why creature felt the need to call her out on it other than that at the time she looked a little suspicious (at least to me) and he could've been laying groundwork for a scum read of Naomi (considering as scum he would have already known her to be innocent)

141 was basically an early pressure vote, see how creature reacts.

143 - Creature reacts with... wifom? At least that's what that argument looks like to me

150, 153 - This reads like 'I can't be scum I was awkward' which feels weird because at least to me the start of games are a bit awkward as both alignments. Scum want to look less awkward but so do town. Not sure if this counts as IIoA

181 why include yourself in your own readslist? Not scummy but definitely odd

210 why quicklynch people who are MIA before they get the chance to post? Denies town of information that they would get from, you know, not quicklynching? Feels like scum 'I know they're town and will be easy lynchees'

Why would Light be so eager to bus both Vedith and Creature on day 1?

[Creature]

I can't link games in my phone, but you can check my wiki.

According to your wiki, you've won most of your scum games. Doesn't that mean that you're pretty decent as scum?

The game I replaced out? The game I was called beetlejuice all the time?

[Transcend]

Lemme find a light scum game and she if she busses a lot.

[RachMarie]

You are not feeling like you did in homestuck dude

Which is the only game I can address atm because homestuck is a completed game.

[Transcend]

Unfortunately, I can't meta her here. She flipped town in all her completed games.

[Creature]

Because I was a treestump there.

[Transcend]

Yeah Creature feels nothing like C-14 Creature.

[BlackStar]

Looking through Vedith's iso, the way that he talks to Rach kind of makes it sound like he knows that she's town.

[Creature]

Nothing like my scum game.

[BlackStar]

Nothing like my scum game.

This is such a bad defense and there's no way it would ever convince anyone to believe you. But I've said that same thing lots of times as town so I feel conflicted

[RachMarie]

of course he knew

it was one of the things that pinged me on Vedith was reading his ISO and not seeing the usual level of she is scumz that I generally get. Basically if someone is so sure I am town or so sure I am scum it pings my scumdar, if there is somewhat in the middle of I think she could be scum to I think she could be town, then I am more likely to town read that person.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=27374

Granted, there was 7 players, he stuck with Ranger and never left. He waffled this entire game.

[BlackStar]

VOTE: creature

I don't know if this is right, but I'm tired of agonizing over it

[Transcend]

I think you're right honestly. WP to Rach/Sera/Jordan slot if wrong.

Rach promise me you're not scum <3

[Transcend]

I'm gonna assume no response from Creature = we just won.

BlackStar good job with the dayvig d1 that was a really pleasant surprise to see when the fire alarm at my work kept going off.

Seraphim gj engineering the wagon to get light dayvigged.

Rach thanks for obvtowning

[Transcend]

And Creature don't be ashamed I think you had a really good fake claim that bought you a lot of time, but you just didn't do so hot in this MYLO and it's an experience you need to learn from. Plus you kinda slipped that there was a ninja.

[RachMarie]

I am not scum I am just a lowly VT

yeah I think we picked right.

I tried a technique Jiffy taught me to help me get out of my indecisiveness and I think it worked.

[RachMarie]

I still hate being in MYLO/LYLO though

[Transcend]

If you're twilight trolling I'm gonna be really upset Rachy

[RachMarie]

I don't troll