STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Firebringer]

pay attention in class fool.

[Titus]

pay attention in class fool.

This.

Spoiler: For Fire

I baked you a cookie because I love you as a friend.

[Firebringer]

Thanks Titus, I made you this:

Spoiler: Baked Goods

[Titus]

Awww you even wrote my name on it.

[DrippingGoofball]

HAPPY BIRETHDAY DGB

THANKE YOU!!!!

[Titus]

Happy cake day.

[Shiro]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DGB

Your present will be a swift death by lynching for being scum

BUT AS YOU ARE GETTIG LYNCHED I WILL BE SINGING



I would sing it myself but I am at work at work

[McMenno]

DGB and farside22 are confscum to lynch.

Then vote Farside because I believe DGB.

Why do you believe DGB?

yeah let's not rush this

UNVOTE:

I want to get mastina's thoughts

McMenno, you weren't voting the leading wagon. Why unvote?

I want to take things slowly

[Yume]

Can people point out to me where the fuck I called Yume scum?


Ohhh you can't?
Because I never said that?

Surprise surprise.

Idiots.

You called my bubbling ability scummy and said it was not legit. You also discredited me and my judgment this whole game.

[farside22]

FB, I am town hunting right now. The more town I find, the harder it will be for scum to hide. So why should I town read you?

Have you ever explained your scum reads on TWIE, DGB and Snarky? I’d really like to see them.

I gave a summary statement of why TWIE and DGB are scum. Twie is lurking even more than usual. He has given 0 reads and made many fluff statements. Even giving him some benefit of a doubt because of his play-style, he has literally done nothing this game.

DGB has mentioned a few people as being scum or town, but not made any pushes on anyone. She doesn't appear to be reading or following the thread. She said she didn't know anything about Beachpaloza and didn't vote. She's claimed to be ascetic but then says she can be targeted by events which doesn't make sense to me.

Snarky states he's trying to change to be more active, but he's not pushed people or tried to question people. He naked voted SirCakez, then got on the Mathblade wagon with a vote and "I guess I can get on board with this". Later he states he's town-reading Mathblade but never explains his 180. Naked votes DGB. He asked for votes on her but never really pushed for it. For someone who is trying to be more active, he's pretty far in the background.

Lurker hunting ^

@ shadow: these were the comments skybird made about the PT she was in with Fox.
Would you agree with her comments?

I can confirm that Foxbird was active in our PT and I have her as town.

My alliance with Farside went through.

Titus, grapes: i'd like to speak to either of you privately. an alliance with one of you two for day 3 would be ideal.
i would also love to ally with mastin, but if we would not be able to talk, i think it would be a less helpful arrangement than the above two players.

on Foxbird: i don't find anything terribly towny about her. still, if she was indeed especially busy, i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and she what she comes up with today.

Skybird: could you talk about what Foxbird was like in your topic? if you were both more active in there, i can't know anything about why you have her as town if you don't explain. same question to Fox about Sky, because why not.

In the PT, we talked about reads and the reasons behind those reads. The conversation felt natural and easy which is why I feel she is town.

Well, here I am. Who wants to join my cause of stopping the Cluster?

I do!

To all, I was busier than expected this weekend and am still several pages behind. I should be able to catch up tomorrow after work.

Can't say active, can say active compared to activity in the game thread.
Foxbird's first comment is something to the effect of "Please Skybird don't be scum."
Fox was scum reading xk, snarky and grapes. Thought grapes vs NC was definitely not TvT or SvS.
Thought KTS was pulling a gambit, Fire is trolling. That's about it I think.

Did the convo look natural? How many post did fox make total?
I think sky was wking fox and I'm trying to understand how sky got a town read from Fox with that pt.

OK, I have now reached my decidion.

VOTE: Creature

1- For voting every wagon there was on D1, and only voting SC twice for distancing. Once was early enough for allegedly “whiteknighting” and the other when the wagon was taking off and then unvoted the following page.

2- For sheeping Shiro when they scum read me right after he had stated he scum read Shiro.

3- For allegedly voting Shadow_Step in RR's event, which doesn't make sense at all.

4- For not having an ally on E2, and allying with Town!Snarky on E3, which fits my pattern for scum behaviour on those particular 2 Episodes.

5- Overall, Creature's play is the definition of active lurking. He has over 200 posts, yet has brought a total of the square root of zero multiplied by null in any relevant direction.

Also;
FoS @ randomidget; Creatures ally on E1 who allegedly didn't vote in the event, and is not allied in E3.
FoS @ Shadow_Step; whom Creature claims to have voted for the event which I will also note as distancing (Creature's into that, btw). Shadow also voted ME for the event, which -again- makes no sense, and is not allied on E3.

W/O making a wall, my lynch pool (in order) would be:
Creature > Fire > random > Shiro > TWIE > DGB > Step

I have stated my case on Creature, and only included the reasoning on random & Shadow bc they're both directly linked to said case. However, this list includes all those who fit the patterns from both allying table and voting in RR's event.

P.S. I'm not totally against the lynch of farside either, and I can see the validity of Titus case on her. However, I'm going for the obvious first.

A+++ stuff it's pretty much why I'm reading him 3rd party.

[Not Chara]

i could vote Skybird.

[farside22]

DGB and farside22 are confscum to lynch.

Then vote Farside because I believe DGB.

Why do you believe DGB?

yeah let's not rush this

UNVOTE:

I want to get mastina's thoughts

McMenno, you weren't voting the leading wagon. Why unvote?

I want to take things slowly

2 things
1) You could vote me and the lynch won't go through. The VC will reset and so will the deadline and I get points for 3rd party win con.
2) sky mentioned a scum read on me and didn't vote me, why does she care about your vote?

Rr: I had questions I asked you. I'd appreciate if you don't make me requote them and respond to them.

[Not Chara]

no, nevermind. she isn't in the pool. it doesn't make her conftown but it makes me want to lynch elsewhere for now.
Almost, your Creature vote is good. but Fire is very likely town.
grapes: i may have missed your response. will you ally with Fire and i tonight?

[farside22]

Rational

I'm assuming you sent a message to the mod based on the convo bellow, if so I want a response to the question I asked you after.

Fair enough. The xkfyu point can't be properly evaluated without knowing what he claimed to her and what steven has told her about it.

And I was telling you all yesterday that third parties are a thing here. I actually have evidence of at least 2 third party factions in this game, though only one has a pt/is informed at all.

So, were you playing towards a town win con, with the third party thing as an out just in case, or were you playing for the 3p win con the whole time? Is that why you were saying you weren't going to be using your vote power, so you wouldn't use up your points and put yourself further away from your alternative win condition?

@Yume: I said two things about peridot. Not sure which one you're saying is correct, but I did receive separate confirmation about my mechanical suspicions regarding peridot, whic simultaneously disproved my identity theory.

-Cerb

Yeah, it sound fun at first, hey let's get point, get a 3rd party win and call it a game.
I also had the town win condition if I can't reach the right number of points.
I use the points and I start getting further from the 3rd opportunity.
I think my event is useful but in the end I wasnt thinking about it since I use points to get it going.

Funny story I asked the mod in the PT how many points we gwt if Chara votes self and I vote nc and he told us 5 points.
Poor mod unknowingly mod confirmed us to each other with that response without meaning to.

That's not mod confirmation. That's what the mechanics for the event state.

So the 3p thing waa the goal, got it.

So if we refuse to ally with you for the rest of the game, and nobody targets you, you'll be forced to play for a town win, yes?

@NC: you should read the rest of the game, it's a good lesson in living on the edge of death. I couldn't win with town. As soon as I removed all my targets, which included the entire scum team, I endgamed everyone else.

There's no reason for farside to claim.being 3p here. She's not on the verge of lynch, and she has nothing to offer town. There's no real parallels to my situation in SF.

-Cerb

Fair enough. The xkfyu point can't be properly evaluated without knowing what he claimed to her and what steven has told her about it.

And I was telling you all yesterday that third parties are a thing here. I actually have evidence of at least 2 third party factions in this game, though only one has a pt/is informed at all.

So, were you playing towards a town win con, with the third party thing as an out just in case, or were you playing for the 3p win con the whole time? Is that why you were saying you weren't going to be using your vote power, so you wouldn't use up your points and put yourself further away from your alternative win condition?

@Yume: I said two things about peridot. Not sure which one you're saying is correct, but I did receive separate confirmation about my mechanical suspicions regarding peridot, whic simultaneously disproved my identity theory.

-Cerb

Yeah, it sound fun at first, hey let's get point, get a 3rd party win and call it a game.
I also had the town win condition if I can't reach the right number of points.
I use the points and I start getting further from the 3rd opportunity.
I think my event is useful but in the end I wasnt thinking about it since I use points to get it going.

Funny story I asked the mod in the PT how many points we gwt if Chara votes self and I vote nc and he told us 5 points.
Poor mod unknowingly mod confirmed us to each other with that response without meaning to.

That's not mod confirmation. That's what the mechanics for the event state.

So the 3p thing waa the goal, got it.

So if we refuse to ally with you for the rest of the game, and nobody targets you, you'll be forced to play for a town win, yes?

@NC: you should read the rest of the game, it's a good lesson in living on the edge of death. I couldn't win with town. As soon as I removed all my targets, which included the entire scum team, I endgamed everyone else.

There's no reason for farside to claim.being 3p here. She's not on the verge of lynch, and she has nothing to offer town. There's no real parallels to my situation in SF.

-Cerb

Beach city says scum gets 1 point voting there alliance buddy and 1.5 for voting themselves.
That doesn't equal 5.

This is important.

Titus does not have a guilty. She targeted me and was told by the mod I roleblocked her

And again I'm not going to be lynched but this is fun watching math 2.0 all over again.

[farside22]

no, nevermind. she isn't in the pool. it doesn't make her conftown but it makes me want to lynch elsewhere for now.
Almost, your Creature vote is good. but Fire is very likely town.
grapes: i may have missed your response. will you ally with Fire and i tonight?

Sky is scummy regardless of beach votes.
And anyone who can tell me why there town reading her other then outguessing the fucking mod, I'll be happy to hear it.

[Not Chara]

i agree with you. it's just that the likelihood of hitting scum in the pool is a lot higher, and there are scummy players within it as well. i don't have any reason to townread Skybird.

[Skybird]

DGB and farside22 are confscum to lynch.

Then vote Farside because I believe DGB.

Why do you believe DGB?

yeah let's not rush this

UNVOTE:

I want to get mastina's thoughts

McMenno, you weren't voting the leading wagon. Why unvote?

I want to take things slowly

How does unvoting a secondary wagon "take things slowly"? If you were on the leading wagon your unvote makes sense.

Here you go Farside

VOTE: Farside

I'm trying to sort McMenno so butt out.

[Yume]

VOTE: farside

[Yume]

no, nevermind. she isn't in the pool. it doesn't make her conftown but it makes me want to lynch elsewhere for now.
Almost, your Creature vote is good. but Fire is very likely town.
grapes: i may have missed your response. will you ally with Fire and i tonight?

Sky is scummy regardless of beach votes.
And anyone who can tell me why there town reading her other then outguessing the fucking mod, I'll be happy to hear it.

[Xkfyu]

@Xkfyu – Since Yume has kicked me to the curb want to ally?

Sure thing.

[mastin2]

Blah.
Apologies.
I was

supposed

to be off my V/LA today, because I was SUPPOSED to be able to come onto mafiascum today.
It's 5 AM and I need to get some sleep, so that aint happening today. (I mean. It could. Nothing stopping me. It's just that generally, I prefer to at least maintain SOME semblance of going to bed when it's still dark outside my window. And if I started, I'd be working for at least 2-3 hours, if not more, because that's how much a time commitment MS is, especially when I'm behind.)

[mastin2]

Um.
To clarify.
"Today" means Tuesday.
And it's technically Wednesday now, even though to my subjective perspective of time, it's still Tuesday.
Meaning, I was SUPPOSED to give you content on Tuesday (my today), but I haven't.

I'm not going to sleep for 12 hours, so I

should

have some time tomorrow, and hopefully, I'll actually have time for mafiascum on Wednesday. (You know, the day that it is to...basically everyone else in the world.) I just really think it'd be healthier for me to go to bed right now than to catch up at this very moment. (Well, technically, it'd be healthier for me to have been in bed three hours ago or so, but, the sooner, the better.)

[Reasonably Rational]

Rr: serious question. Do you really believe based on what Titus said above that she really will change her views on me.
Personally I highly doubt anything will change her mind.

@Farside: this is the only question I found, and I don't really know. I don't even know if her changing her mind would actually be a good thing overall, since assuming you're telling the truth, a lynch elsewhere does allow us the chance to hit scum, but if you're still trying for your 3p win con then at some point you'll exit the game early, which is basically giving scum a free kill. It's great for you, not so good for us.

I'm pretty sure however, that the above was not the question you were talking about. The only message I sent Varsoon was asking him to confirm that the count for the beach-a-palooza votes was correct, since we had a discrepancy.

-Cerb

[farside22]

Rr: serious question. Do you really believe based on what Titus said above that she really will change her views on me.
Personally I highly doubt anything will change her mind.

@Farside: this is the only question I found, and I don't really know. I don't even know if her changing her mind would actually be a good thing overall, since assuming you're telling the truth, a lynch elsewhere does allow us the chance to hit scum, but if you're still trying for your 3p win con then at some point you'll exit the game early, which is basically giving scum a free kill. It's great for you, not so good for us.

I'm pretty sure however, that the above was not the question you were talking about. The only message I sent Varsoon was asking him to confirm that the count for the beach-a-palooza votes was correct, since we had a discrepancy.

-Cerb

I asked you about dgb.

[farside22]

DGB and farside22 are confscum to lynch.

Then vote Farside because I believe DGB.

Why do you believe DGB?

yeah let's not rush this

UNVOTE:

I want to get mastina's thoughts

McMenno, you weren't voting the leading wagon. Why unvote?

I want to take things slowly

How does unvoting a secondary wagon "take things slowly"? If you were on the leading wagon your unvote makes sense.

Here you go Farside

VOTE: Farside

I'm trying to sort McMenno so butt out.

This is scum ^


@yume: is kling dead because of you? If so and you think she was scum, why are you withholding that flip?
Are you concerned your wrong and don't want players to question your reads?