Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

[MariaR]

Saw a few posts I liked and your not flailing around like a moron I like the way your holding/defending yourself.

[Io]

He wasn't just questioning it he was actively pushing back on you saying you were scum for it.
Questioning a townread isn't scummy, but I don't really see town pushing to lynch someone for townreading them.

No. I was questioning it for quite a while. I then made a vote and then pushed him for it.

As for the 2nd line, why wouldn't town wanna push someone who's townreading them? You're denying a ton of situational context.

It seams kind of counterproductive to try and tear down an argument for why you are town.

And really I wasn't seeing you really questioning it. At least not for the reason you voted him.
You had questioned him calling your posts weird, but then you voted him because of his town reads being bad despite him explaining them decently well.

[MariaR]

It seams kind of counterproductive to try and tear down an argument for why you are town.

Really? I do this myself and I think it's a very good thing to do if you think the person is townreading you for not very good reason or simply not true facts.

[Expedience]

I think Charloux is town slightly from gut, due to the exclamation marks and "*reads script*"

It seems out of character for you to have this read for that reason

Why is that?

I don't think I know you very well.

My read on Charloux did change, though.

I voted Creature because his townreads have little/no substance behind it. In all of my completed games, scum has townread me for weak reasons. And in one of those games, Creature was scum and townread me just like how he's townreading me now.

Creature never really explains his reads. Also, the Harkonnen replace out was clearly town.

[Io]

It seams kind of counterproductive to try and tear down an argument for why you are town.

Really? I do this myself and I think it's a very good thing to do if you think the person is townreading you for not very good reason or simply not true facts.

I guess to a degree, but not to the extent of lynching them over not liking their reason for townreading you. Creature did give reason and continued to give reason after that.

[Creature]

Oh no, 649!MariaR strikes again.

VOTE: MariaR

[Expedience]

My vote is in the right place.

So you caught up and deduced that i am scum in ~15 minutes after replacing in? No comment.

Lynch this it's that simple

[Tenshii]

@Io, what are Creature's reasons for townreading me? What are your thoughts on said reasons?

[Expedience]

I honestly get such a kick out of people getting paranoid of me because I haven't lost as scum yet. If I'm towny I must be scum because of it
If i'm playing sub par I must be town
It's so much fun

I was scumreading MariaR a bit, but this feels town to me.

[MariaR]

Oh no, 649!MariaR strikes again.

VOTE: MariaR

*Tilts head* Oh? Really
*smiles*
How so?

[Io]

@Io, what are Creature's reasons for townreading me? What are your thoughts on said reasons?

Well he was saying you were town for posting like you did in 647.
For meta stuff I don't really use meta myself because I have no real idea how to make meta reads, but I have no reason for him to be lying about your meta since you didn't really say he was wrong with the meta.

He also said you were town for pushing back on his town read, but that reason I don't think is that really valid as I don't like your push on him.
If someone could give a good reason for why that is not something scum would do then go ahead, but I'm not feeling it to be town motivated.

[Tenshii]

Well he was saying you were town for posting like you did in 647.
For meta stuff I don't really use meta myself because I have no real idea how to make meta reads, but I have no reason for him to be lying about your meta since you didn't really say he was wrong with the meta.

There's nothing to deny when he never said why the meta matched up in the first place. I even asked how does it match up.

Here, Io can you link me a scum game of yours, any scum game works.

[Io]

n asked how does it

All my games are linked on my wiki.
I only have 1 scum game so far. It was my newbie game.

[Expedience]

This is a multiball game(More than one scum team), so what i meant was that i wouldn't mind working with you even if you were scum, because in this game even scum scum-hunt.
Sorry i made you feel bad, i went overboard.

I don't buy this at all, this isn't a thing that exists. When I play games I don't even consider multiball (unless I'm scum - however I think it's more likely this is just a fake excuse).

When you say "lol ur dum get smarter and i might not look down on you <3", it doesn't equate to "i think you're scum and bad i hope you get smarter so we can find the other scumteam together". It's pretty obviously just trying to stop people from trusting Harkonnen down both roads at once.

I don't like Kop's defense much either, it feels scummy because too much benefit of the doubt given to Charloux.

I don't understand where you got this from.

First quote:

why are u townreading me

Something like null-scum right now. Regardless of your alignment the thing we should have in common is scum hunting, but your future contribution is looking pitiful if this is the way you continue to play. Don't feel bad though, i suck too! Just give it your all!

Second quote:

This is a multiball game(More than one scum team), so what i meant was that i wouldn't mind working with you even if you were scum, because in this game even scum scum-hunt.
Sorry i made you feel bad, i went overboard.

Actually, you're right. My point isn't valid because I didn't read his post properly. In 129 he does say "regardless of your alignment", so it's internally consistent and not an excuse in the way I thought.

It's still terrible though, like he's trying to buddy and discredit Harkonnen at the same time. I don't find it a believable stance to hold and I feel like it was instead manufactured in 129, not 152 because he saw his inconsistency in both calling Harkonnen VI and saying that he could be distancing with Blix900.

This is a multiball game(More than one scum team), so what i meant was that i wouldn't mind working with you even if you were scum, because in this game even scum scum-hunt.

Like really, just read this part and let it sink in how dumb this is. Nobody could believe this.

Dunnstral's catchup was uninspired.

[Firebringer]

Oh no, 649!MariaR strikes again.

VOTE: MariaR

*Tilts head* Oh? Really
*smiles*
How so?

You are sinister!

[Tenshii]

All my games are linked on my wiki.
I only have 1 scum game so far. It was my newbie game.

After reading Newbie 1690, Io's game so far this game looks like her scum game from her Newbie 1690.

[Blix900]

Don't really have the time to catch up right now, will read through what I've missed tonight.

[Transcend]

Seaching for rJXr replacement.

[Drone]

All my games are linked on my wiki.
I only have 1 scum game so far. It was my newbie game.

After reading Newbie 1690, Io's game so far this game looks like her scum game from her Newbie 1690.

Wall posting or...?

[Io]

All my games are linked on my wiki.
I only have 1 scum game so far. It was my newbie game.

After reading Newbie 1690, Io's game so far this game looks like her scum game from her Newbie 1690.

Wall posting or...?

I do that every game so that wouldn't be the reason. Not really sure what he is talking about exactly though.

[Drone]

I'm against meta reading anyway. Especially if it's based on one game.

[Drone]

My senses tell me Tenshi might actually be scum. Mhm.

[Creature]

Inb4 this game gets an entirely new playerlist.

[Creature]

1. Creature
2. Firebringer
3. Io

4. MariaR

5. Tenshii

6. Charloux

7. Expedience

8. rJXr

9. Dunnstral
10. Drone

11. Narurider*
12. Blix900
13. Kop

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral's catchup was uninspired.

Unsure of what you expected

VOTE: Blix900
Attention: I would like to lynch Blix