Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[House]

House: oooh, boy. no, i am not. but i believe you, lying about a player's meta on purpose is a quick way to get attacked by that player.

That was just as true before I asked you to dive Creature, why didn't you believe me then?

[Not Chara]

it wasn't that i didn't believe you, i asked because i didn't know if you meant this game or not. i wasn't sure what that phrase 'Sly is Creature 2.0' meant.

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh thoughts on mcmenno

none. can't read someone from 3 posts unless they're big posts with a lot of thought process behind them

[gigabyteTroubadour]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

[SirCakez]

giga, this game has been moving

fast

and there's actually a lot of AI content in the first few pages.

Cakez: why did you assume i don't have scumreads because i hadn't moved my vote? you read my posts, you should have seen that i had some players i was suspicious of.

someone voting them answer: what makes pepto's catch-up really scummy?

I'd expect you to be voting scumreads if you had them....

oh thoughts on mcmenno

none. can't read someone from 3 posts unless they're big posts with a lot of thought process behind them

What is this even responding to?

[Not Chara]

I know House and I think he has the logical ability to give an RVS vote that is correct.

was referring to this, gigabyte. explain?

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

[House]

I can't tonal-read myself but I can assure you that I'm not at all scared of House. I actually like him a lot.

You should be, because you know I don't let go of a scumread until it swings and I'm starting to get one on you.

You're trying to emulate a carefree demeanor that doesn't fit with the current atmosphere. You know damned well I can swing lynches when I dig in, but you're not concerned about me scumreading you?

I suggest you get scared and sell me on why you're not scum, or at the very least give me a better case on someone that convinces me you're not bussing.

[Peptobislawl]

Sly is town because Giga is scum.

But why is giga scum? Just saying giga is scum doesn't make me believe it, you need reasons. Hence, no

real

argument

95

Why is Giga town?

@House, investigating my gut.

Why do you keep missing my posts Pepto?

Giga replied, I didn't think more input was needed. It's a shaky defense from giga, to be sure, though as I explained before sly's bad push makes me think he's town or at least not scum with sly. A town sly would invalidate that.

gigabyte: i also didn't get that your call for a PL was a joke.

Make that 3 of us, you took the "joke" to far. probably would have suspected you if not for sly, still might if he flips town.

why can't they both be scum to you?

same as above, plus there isn't yet evidence to suggest an anti-town 3rd party/multiball.

[Not Chara]

giga, this game has been moving

fast

and there's actually a lot of AI content in the first few pages.

Cakez: why did you assume i don't have scumreads because i hadn't moved my vote? you read my posts, you should have seen that i had some players i was suspicious of.

someone voting them answer: what makes pepto's catch-up really scummy?

I'd expect you to be voting scumreads if you had them....

oh thoughts on mcmenno

none. can't read someone from 3 posts unless they're big posts with a lot of thought process behind them

What is this even responding to?

i was scumreading House at the time, i did everything to show that but say so explicitly. i was considering moving my vote but between Sly, gigabyte, and zakk, there were a lot of options and i was in the middle of engaging with them.
your fixation on this point about me not voting immediately is strange. it's the standard 'why aren't you voting your scumread' filler question i've seen thrown around in every game i've been in, but for some reason you won't let go of it.
what's your read on me?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

What is this even responding to?

I think Blade Dancer asked me for that.

I know House and I think he has the logical ability to give an RVS vote that is correct.

was referring to this, gigabyte. explain?

Oh oops

House can be really nitpicky at times, and I thought it was weird of him to justify an RVS vote on inaccurate reasoning. Really though I think it's more likely he just forgot, but I wanted to he how he'd react to being corrected.

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

I've never played with McMenno before so I don't really think I can read him easily. Going to ignore your first question because that's a pretty leading question.

I can't tonal-read myself but I can assure you that I'm not at all scared of House. I actually like him a lot.

You should be, because you know I don't let go of a scumread until it swings and I'm starting to get one on you.

You're trying to emulate a carefree demeanor that doesn't fit with the current atmosphere. You know damned well I can swing lynches when I dig in, but you're not concerned about me scumreading you?

I suggest you get scared and sell me on why you're not scum, or at the very least give me a better case on someone that convinces me you're not bussing.

I'm not concerned you're scumreading me because I know I'm town and that you'll see that if you're not scum.

OK, since I'm voting for Slysly and you want me to explain why I'm not bussing... Do scumpartners usually start their pushes on their own partners by asking leading questions and making them "slip"? I would assume not, because partner!Slysly already knows why I'm scum and doesn't have to "expose" me for it.

[House]

i was scumreading House at the time

Based on what, exactly?

[House]

OK, since I'm voting for Slysly and you want me to explain why I'm not bussing... Do scumpartners usually start their pushes on their own partners by asking leading questions and making them "slip"? I would assume not, because partner!Slysly already knows why I'm scum and doesn't have to "expose" me for it.

That explains why he's not bussing.

Not you.

[Blade Dancer]

@Pepto, There was plenty to say. You said I lacked real reasons for my positions. I show you my reasons. You don't respond to the substance or address the depth of my reads. I asked you why Giga was town as well.

@giga, You want to play lawyer. Ok. Why weren't you scared of me?

McMenno has three posts. The ole "this guy is always scum" vote, him asking me if I was serious, and voting a random wagon that was going. McMenno does not want to be seen. You don't need an army of posts to see that.

[House]

Consider my intent to vote Giggles for realsies at this point if zakk acquits himself.

[Skullduggery]

Day 1, Vote Count #3

Current Vote Count:

(4)

zakk -- House, Blade Dancer, Not Chara, SirCakez

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

House

(0)

Maxous

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Blade Dancer

(0)

Shiro

(0)

MagnaofIllusion

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

gigabyteTroubadour

(0)

Accountant

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(2)

SlySly -- zakk, gigabyteTroubadour

(0)

McMenno

(0)

SnarkySnowman

(2)

Peptobislawl -- McMenno, Creature

(0)

Gamma Emerald

(0)

Leonshade

(1)

Andrius -- Ankamius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

Maxous, PeregrineV, Shiro, MagnaofIllusion, Nosferatu, Accountant, SlySly, SnarkySnowman, Peptobislawl, Gamma Emerald, Leonshade, Andrius, massive

With 22 votes available, it takes 12 votes to hammer.

MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until 10/10.
Gamma Emerald is V/LA until 10/11.

Day 1 Will End on Saturday, October 22nd, at 5 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-10-22 17:00:00)

[Not Chara]

i was scumreading House at the time

Based on what, exactly?

gigabyte's reaction to the RVS vote was bad, and Creature voted them for it. you then voted Creature, which i didn't like. that was the basis. i couldn't see the reasoning for scumreading Creature for a perfectly valid push.
but you didn't continue pressing that, and your posting has been good, so the scumread faded away. that, and it wad an early push for a read, as Blade said.

[Gamma Emerald]

HOLY SHIT 9 PAGES
First post I promised:
IN THIS WORLD...IT'S KILL OR BE KILLED

[gigabyteTroubadour]

That explains why he's not bussing.

Not you.

House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.

@Blade, I wasn't scared of you because I didn't know who you are.

Mcmenno could just be lazy as town, your scumread of him makes sense and I at least get the logic behind it but I don't come to the same conclusion.

[House]

i was scumreading House at the time

Based on what, exactly?

gigabyte's reaction to the RVS vote was bad, and Creature voted them for it. you then voted Creature, which i didn't like. that was the basis. i couldn't see the reasoning for scumreading Creature for a perfectly valid push.
but you didn't continue pressing that, and your posting has been good, so the scumread faded away. that, and it wad an early push for a read, as Blade said.

Nah, her response was fine. Considering that response was based on shared history, I think I'd know better whether it was bad or not than a couple jumpy Lucys.

I'm scumreading Giga, but not based on anything in RVS.

[McMenno]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

evidently you can't

or is this a reaction test? in which case what are you trying to accomplish here

[Blade Dancer]

That explains why he's not bussing.

Not you.

House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.

@Blade, I wasn't scared of you because I didn't know who you are.

Mcmenno could just be lazy as town, your scumread of him makes sense and I at least get the logic behind it but I don't come to the same conclusion.

Contradiction!

If you weren't scared of me because you didn't know me, this implies you take meta into your argument. Yet, you deliberately remain null on McMenno without effort to sort him via his meta.

[Not Chara]

HOLY SHIT 9 PAGES
First post I promised:
IN THIS WORLD...IT'S KILL OR BE KILLED

get on the ride, Gamma. this train isn't ending until we reach the surface.

i was scumreading House at the time

Based on what, exactly?

gigabyte's reaction to the RVS vote was bad, and Creature voted them for it. you then voted Creature, which i didn't like. that was the basis. i couldn't see the reasoning for scumreading Creature for a perfectly valid push.
but you didn't continue pressing that, and your posting has been good, so the scumread faded away. that, and it wad an early push for a read, as Blade said.

Nah, her response was fine. Considering that response was based on shared history, I think I'd know better whether it was bad or not than a couple jumpy Lucys.

I'm scumreading Giga, but not based on anything in RVS.

okay. you didn't really respond to the point of my post, but alright. like i said, i no longer think that way, but you asked me about how i felt at the time.

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

evidently you can't

or is this a reaction test? in which case what are you trying to accomplish here

Well, you're capable of deflection and fearing what I am up to.

Why haven't you tried to sort anyone?